Revell 1980 Bronco engine

[landman]

What is the engine in this kit? 302 or 351M?

 

Thanks, Pat

[Classicgas]

I believe it is a 302.

[landman]

14 minutes ago, Classicgas said:

I believe it is a 302.

Thank you Lee.

[Classicgas]

Your welcome.

[Force]

It's easy to see if you know what you should look for.
On the Windsor family engines (221-260-289-302 and 351 Windsor) the upper radiator hose goes into the front part of the intake manifold and the water goes through it to the heads, on the 335 family engines (351 Cleveland, 351M and 400) the upper radiator hose goes into the engine block.

[landman]

8 hours ago, Force said:

It's easy to see if you know what you should look for.
On the Windsor family engines (221-260-289-302 and 351 Windsor) the upper radiator hose goes into the front part of the intake manifold and the water goes through it to the heads, on the 335 family engines (351 Cleveland, 351M and 400) the upper radiator hose goes into the engine block.

Thank you Håkan, now I know what it is. 

Edited August 4, 2018 by landman

[Ballroad]

Wasn't the 351-400 actually a big block engine, the one I had in my 76 LTD was physically a bigger motor. How I remembered them was the fuel pump mounted with the bolts one on top of each other and 289/302, the pump mounted to the front gear cover slde by side, (normally seen)....

[Force]

I don't know if you can call them big block engines, the 335 family Cleveland has the same 4.38" bore spacing and head bolt pattern as the 221-351Windsor.
But the deck is taller, at least compared to the 221-302, and the 335 had two different deck hights, 9.206" for the 351 Cleveland and 10.297" for the 351M and 400, and the heads are wider due to the canted valves, so it's a physically larger engine than the Windsor...but big block...naah. 
Both the FE and 385 family 429-460 has larger bore spacing with 4.63" for the FE and 4.90" for the 385, so the FE could be called "medium" block and the 429-460 big block.

[Eshaver]

5 hours ago, Ballroad said:

Wasn't the 351-400 actually a big block engine, the one I had in my 76 LTD was physically a bigger motor. How I remembered them was the fuel pump mounted with the bolts one on top of each other and 289/302, the pump mounted to the front gear cover slde by side, (normally seen)....

You're referring to a 351-M or modified block . These TURKEY motors were put in F-350 trucks , Station wagons , even Broncos . Yes, they are NOT at all the same as the 351 Cleveland or 351 standard .....

[landman]

32 minutes ago, Eshaver said:

You're referring to a 351-M or modified block . These TURKEY motors were put in F-350 trucks , Station wagons , even Broncos . Yes, they are NOT at all the same as the 351 Cleveland or 351 standard .....

I had a 351M in a 1975 Ford sedan.

[Eshaver]

Pat , that was a popular engine choice in that car . I was buying and selling such cars to make into Taxi cabs in Ft Worth during that time

[Force]

The 351M was nothing other than a tall deck 400 block with a shorter 3.50 inch stroke crank with 3.00 inch main bearing size instead of the 351C 2.75 inch and they used the same rods as the 400 resulting in 1.88:1 rod to stroke ratio instead of the 1.65:1 as the 351C and 400 has, the 351M pistons had taller compression hight due to the shorter stroke and shared most of the other major parts with the 400.
The 351M was only available as 2 bbl carburator and open chamber small port 2V heads, the 351M also used the 385 series bellhouse pattern and it was made from 1975 to 1979 in cars and 1982 in light trucks...the 351M was definately not the best engine Ford made. 

[oldcarfan]

The Revell/Monogram 1/24th Bronco was a 302 I think. The Revell one is probably a 351W but the kit wasn't as accurate overall.