Advanced Auto just told me they are getting rid of Duplicolor for Rustoleum

[jchrisf]

Thanks Dale.. that car looks awesome!

[Bob Ellis]

Is there any issue of enamel versus lacquer?

[jchrisf]

2 hours ago, Bob Ellis said:

Is there any issue of enamel versus lacquer?

From what I understand lacquer dries faster and harder than enamel and cannot be put on top of enamel.

[slusher]

26 minutes ago, jchrisf said:

From what I understand lacquer dries faster and harder than enamel and cannot be put on top of enamel.

I put Testors one coat lacquer clear on Rusrtoleum enamel no problems...

[Dann Tier]

10 hours ago, jchrisf said:

From what I understand lacquer dries faster and harder than enamel and cannot be put on top of enamel.

not all lacquers are the same, I have successfully sprayed Duplicolor clear, and Tamiya clears over Krylon, which by the way, is waaaay better than Crapoleum -sprays like Duplicolor, and even though its enamel, its ALOT more durable!!

[jchrisf]

11 hours ago, slusher said:

I put Testors one coat lacquer clear on Rusrtoleum enamel no problems...

Good to know slusher.. thanks

2 hours ago, Dann Tier said:

not all lacquers are the same, I have successfully sprayed Duplicolor clear, and Tamiya clears over Krylon, which by the way, is waaaay better than Crapoleum -sprays like Duplicolor, and even though its enamel, its ALOT more durable!!

I'm going to have to try some Krylon soon.. it is so inexpensive and readily available.

[Dann Tier]

3 minutes ago, jchrisf said:

Good to know slusher.. thanks

I'm going to have to try some Krylon soon.. it is so inexpensive and readily available.

no matter what me, or anybody else says though, its ALWAYS a good idea to test it out first!....cant tell you how many times 'trusted' formulas have changed.

[jchrisf]

47 minutes ago, Dann Tier said:

no matter what me, or anybody else says though, its ALWAYS a good idea to test it out first!....cant tell you how many times 'trusted' formulas have changed.

I'll be glad when I find something that works consistently for me.

[Dann Tier]

Just now, jchrisf said:

I'll be glad when I find something that works consistently for me.

you will!.....I like the new Krylon a lot!!

[jchrisf]

On 8/30/2018 at 10:25 PM, Hawk312 said:

I have been using Duplicolor for probably over 25 years now. Its nearly impossible to get a run with that stuff, and rubs out nice. But I`ve also used some Rustoleum with good results. It dries rather quickly and rubs out nice from what I have seen. 

It will be interesting to compare the durability. I have cars in my case painted over 20 years ago with Duplicolor that still have a glass smooth deep finish. 

Here are a couple builds with Rustoleum finishes. The Wheaties car is the engine enamel orange. The Lowes car is Valspar (some shade of blue) and Rustoleum Painters Touch Marigold with Rustoleum Painters Touch Clear over the whole thing. 

 

I went to Home Depot today to get a new flapper for the turdlet and stopped by the paint department.  They had a large selection of Painter's Touch paints for $4 so I grabbed a can of yellow that I need for my next project and also the Gloss clear.  I figured with results like above I've got to give it a try.  The can also says it is for plastic so I am hoping it will not craze like I have so much trouble with Duplicolor.  I'm really hoping it works well.. if anything I can decant it and use in the airbrush when the weather cools down next month.

Edited September 5, 2018 by jchrisf

[StevenGuthmiller]

13 hours ago, slusher said:

I put Testors one coat lacquer clear on Rusrtoleum enamel no problems...

You can spray Testors clear "lacquer" over virtually anything.

 

Steve

[jchrisf]

10 minutes ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

You can spray Testors clear "lacquer" over virtually anything.

 

Steve

What about craft acrylics?  That stuff sprays so nice out of an airbrush... if I could just get a nice clear on it.

[Rider]

49 minutes ago, jchrisf said:

What about craft acrylics?  That stuff sprays so nice out of an airbrush... if I could just get a nice clear on it.

Best clear I have used is this 2 part Poly, it's actually 3 parts if you include the reducer and catalyst. This stuff is great for intercoating (also know as a barrier) as well. I use this stuff between many many different paint products and finishes with out any issues. As a top clear coat it is glass smooth without any wet sanding or polishing. 

Edited September 5, 2018 by Rider

[jchrisf]

29 minutes ago, Rider said:

Best clear I have used is this 2 part Poly, it's actually 3 parts if you include the reducer and catalyst. This stuff is great for intercoating (also know as a barrier) as well. I use this stuff between many many different paint products and finishes with out any issues. As a top clear coat it is glass smooth without any wet sanding or polishing. 

 

Where do you get it Rider?  Will it go over acrylics?

[Rider]

39 minutes ago, jchrisf said:

Where do you get it Rider?  Will it go over acrylics?

Goes over pretty much anything, I have yet to have any kind of reaction. I buy from autobody supply shops.

As I said it works great for intercoating when mixing different types of paint and different brands. If anyone tells you different they haven't used it. I dig it because I use a ton of different products for coverage and colour choices. If you do a search on here (not sure exactly what subject topic to search) for messed up paint and reactions many are caused from using one manufactures paint over another's. Even if they are both acrylic. I have had reactions between Tamiya and testors, Tamiya and Valijo, Duplicolor and testors, etc. I am no chemist but results don't lie and I am not one to talk BS just to talk. For me Poly-U is a safety net.

Ever since I started using it a few years ago for intercoating I have yet to chuck a shell in stripper as a direct result of a bad reaction. It's not cheap by any means but it is a piece of mind for me when messing around with so many different types of colours and paint combos. 

This thing has over 40 colours on it and a number of paint manufactures paints, enamel, lacquer, acrylic, dollar store nail polish which is some type of lacquer, nail polish from China (who knows what's in that stuff) craft die, my own concoction of Pledge mixed with some colour, the list goes on and on. No reaction at all.

[jchrisf]

Nice Rider!  Thanks!

[slusher]

7 hours ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

You can spray Testors clear "lacquer" over virtually anything.

 

Steve

True, it's not a hot lacquer, works great over Krylon also...

 

[StevenGuthmiller]

9 hours ago, jchrisf said:

What about craft acrylics?  That stuff sprays so nice out of an airbrush... if I could just get a nice clear on it.

It's worth a shot.

I have sprayed it over bodies that had some acrylic details on them, but I don't use a lot of acrylics.

Testors clear lacquers are extremely mild.

You can shoot them over enamel with no problem.

 

Steve

[Chuck Most]

There's no d at the end of Advance. Sorry- I worked there for five years and it always got on my nerves.

That being said- I don't see too much of a problem. I always bought my DupliColor from the local Meijer. Their cost was less than what it would have been from Advance with my employee discount, and they often had buy one get one half off sales. I know not everybody has a Meijer in the area, but if you look around I'd think you'd be shocked how much less you can get it for than at Advance. Or any other auto parts chain really- seems like the auto body stuff is always pretty dearly priced when you go to an auto parts store.