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Daydreaming about a future project while I'm building an AMT 28 Ford sedan. I'm putting a flathead in this one, but thinking of future uses for the "wedge" from the kit. Is this the same engine that's also in the AMT 49 Merc? Seems like an odd choice by the kit designers for a hot rod or custom engine in the early 60's, but what do I know?

Anyway, what are some other intake options for this engine in scale? More hot-rod-centric than the offset carb intake is what I'm looking for

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Not the same exact piece: one is AMT, the other MPC.  The AMT Merc engine is adapted to a Ford/Merc stick transmission (which would probably last about five seconds behind that engine).  MPC's engine has an automatic transmission, either a PowerFlite or early TorqueFlite.  The block resembles those in the AMT Imperial kits more than anything.  As for options, look at later Mopar kits with the "B" series engine.

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Good heavens, why NOT use the cross-ram manifold? That would be different and look hella cool on a hot rod, especially a retro-'60s one. B)

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4 minutes ago, Snake45 said:

Good heavens, why NOT use the cross-ram manifold? That would be different and look hella cool on a hot rod, especially a retro-'60s one. B)

Honestly Snake, I think it's my OCD, because the carbs aren't in a straight line. I'm sure real world there's probably not much better. Just asking about options

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I know what you mean about the offset intake, it bothers my modeling-OCD too!  Don Kendall's 60s T-bucket had a 413 wedge, and still looked pretty cool.

I can't find any good pics, but I think the wedge has intake port spacing that would allow you to bolt on Pontiac Hilborn injection, like the pieces Ed Fluck sells from the original Monogram '32 roadster.

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/426-max-wedge-chrysler-hilborn.1047108/

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17 hours ago, Mr. Metallic said:

Anyway, what are some other intake options for this engine in scale? More hot-rod-centric than the offset carb intake is what I'm looking for

Greg, i appreciate your enthusiasm with all the reference pics you posted. But they're not answering my actual question about scale sourced alternatives for this engine, preferably with a hot-rod bent

 

8 hours ago, Spex84 said:

I know what you mean about the offset intake, it bothers my modeling-OCD too! 

Glad i'm not the only one Chris. And thanks for the heads up on the Pontiac FI. I just happen to have a couple more of those that I bought from Ed sitting around here :D

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So, as I pawed through the parts for the 28 sedan kit, the engine choice started making a little more sense.

There's not a true "hot rod" version in the kit, it's more a 2 n 1, with a stock and DRAG version. So the inclusion of the wedge makes sense for a drag car of the era. My first clue was the set back firewall/dash combo piece. This sets the firewall clear back at the dash location, making room for the wedge engine. The oversight that i see with this is the only rear in the kit is stock model A.

Still, cool kit. Glad I have a couple of them. For those of you that took the time to add your input, thank you

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If you want a rod version, there are other ways to go.  The MPC '28 Woody and roadster pickup kits (reissued once as AMT/Ertl) include a rod version with a nearly all-chrome flathead engine.  MPC also did a one-time-only issue of the roadster pickup with a small-block Chevy and a Corvette rear suspension.  All of those are based on the '28 sedan fender/chassis so the parts will swap pretty easily.  The Chevy engine sits in the roadster pickup at a pretty steep angle so you'll want to tweak that anyway.

The Dodge Red Ram engine from the AMT '29 roadster double kit would slip into the sedan pretty nicely, too.

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1 hour ago, Mark said:

If you want a rod version, there are other ways to go.  The MPC '28 Woody and roadster pickup kits (reissued once as AMT/Ertl) include a rod version with a nearly all-chrome flathead engine.  MPC also did a one-time-only issue of the roadster pickup with a small-block Chevy and a Corvette rear suspension.  All of those are based on the '28 sedan fender/chassis so the parts will swap pretty easily.  The Chevy engine sits in the roadster pickup at a pretty steep angle so you'll want to tweak that anyway.

The Dodge Red Ram engine from the AMT '29 roadster double kit would slip into the sedan pretty nicely, too.

 

19 hours ago, Mr. Metallic said:

Daydreaming about a future project while I'm building an AMT 28 Ford sedan. I'm putting a flathead in this one, but thinking of future uses for the "wedge" from the kit

Thanks Mark. Like I said, I'm currently building the sedan with the flathead, just daydreaming about a potential future use for the wedge, which I think I have settled on. When I do, I have no problem swapping a better rearend for drag racing under the fenders. I was just commenting on the design of the original sedan kit, having many cool drag specific pieces, but only the stock rearend.

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IMHO for a Old School Wedge build, the Cross Ram manifold is what gets my blood flowing. Think hood with open sides and carbs sticking out. DSC_0092.JPG.8b7404fc475bed347993b3c08c5d0a42.JPG

 

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Interesting thing on this MPC / AMT '28 Model A kit, the engine fits but the cast iron exhaust manifolds don't. :blink:

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