I'd like a boat

[landman]

41 minutes ago, unclescott58 said:

A lot of inboard boats before the 1960's had motors set in the middle of the boat like that. Especially the wood ones for some reason. 

Balance? Spreading the torque forces?.

Edited May 15, 2020 by landman

[HJK]

Hi Pat,

There was a kit from Revell called '65 Chevy Stepside Pickup and Hemi-Hydro Combo. It's what it says, a Chevy Pickup with a motor boat on a trailer.

It's in 1:25 and the article number is 85-7249.

Take care and Fight The Virus.

Juergen

[landman]

1 minute ago, HJK said:

Hi Pat,

There was a kit from Revell called '65 Chevy Stepside Pickup and Hemi-Hydro Combo. It's what it says, a Chevy Pickup with a motor boat on a trailer.

It's in 1:25 and the article number is 85-7249.

Take care and Fight The Virus.

Juergen

Wow! Same colours too.

[HJK]

Pat,

It's me again. It seems that you can still buy it . It's new on the shelves of modelroundup.com. It's $79.90 dollars, wow, less than $80 Dollars :-):-).

Well, anyway, even the Color seems to fit the suburban in your picture.

Cheers

[espo]

4 minutes ago, HJK said:

Pat,

It's me again. It seems that you can still buy it . It's new on the shelves of modelroundup.com. It's $79.90 dollars, wow, less than $80 Dollars :-):-).

Well, anyway, even the Color seems to fit the suburban in your picture.

Cheers

Great kit, but about three times what it sold for when reissued. I would love to build another one, but I think the price is a little out of hand here. 

[High octane]

40 minutes ago, landman said:

Wow! Same colours too.

The boat in that Stepside/Hemi Hydro seems kind of big and one of our club members says that it scales out to 1/20th scale? And of course it's not a hydro but a flat bottomed boat as well.

[espo]

One of the reasons that the Inboard engines were mounted in the center of the haul had to do with the way the Prop was driven. In the earliest inboard  boats the drive shaft would be mounted to drive the prop after passing thru the bottom of the haul. The shaft was mounted at a slight angle and that required that the engine be mounted were it was. Later another drive style that was called "V-Drive" and this allowed the engine to be mounted backwards toward the rear of the boat but with the drive Shaft going toward the front of the boat for a short distance where it would be attached To the V-Drive that would then send another shaft at a much lower starting point toward the Stern of the boat. This design still had the drawback of taking up a lot of room inside the Haul. Later a newer design had the engine mounted to an Outdrive system at the rear or stern of the boat. This was much like an outboard motor system but the engine was still inside the haul.  With the advent of the Jet Drive systems the engine could now also be placed at the rear of the Haul and drive a  pump that drew water from under the boat and then pumped the water out the back with a movable nozzle to control the steering also. As outboard engines became more powerful they became an alternative means of power and being bolted to the stern were even outside of the haul and that freed up a lot of space in the haul. I don't know if this will help anyone better understand why an engine was mounted where it was but it can't hurt to understand the challenge of suppling power to turn the prop shaft and in turn the prop.   

[espo]

On 5/14/2020 at 6:52 AM, landman said:

I would like to build something like this (seen at a show in Saskatoon in 2008). I have the suburban, now I need to find a boat. Open to suggestions. Thanks.And while we are at it, is anyone aware of a 1:24/25 portable generator? I fdound one on Shapeways but I am not sure if I like it.

This is a very nice looking setup and if you're thinking of building it I think you should. The challenge may be in the area of the boat depending on how large a craft you wish to build. The small boat pictured my be hard to replicate unless you just scratch build the haul, or cut down the dimensions of the boat kits mentioned here by others. Either way it is very doable. You also could just use this as a bases for your build and build on of these boat kits to a style you like. 

[landman]

52 minutes ago, espo said:

This is a very nice looking setup and if you're thinking of building it I think you should. The challenge may be in the area of the boat depending on how large a craft you wish to build. The small boat pictured my be hard to replicate unless you just scratch build the haul, or cut down the dimensions of the boat kits mentioned here by others. Either way it is very doable. You also could just use this as a bases for your build and build on of these boat kits to a style you like. 

I ordere the AMt 3 in one last night. I will build the Mahogany runabout version and likely build an older pickupfor it.If I find one closer to the green and white one I might do it with '59 Cadillac fins. The lindberg Coronado might work for this. Assuming one exists.

[espo]

43 minutes ago, landman said:

I ordere the AMt 3 in one last night. I will build the Mahogany runabout version and likely build an older pickupfor it.If I find one closer to the green and white one I might do it with '59 Cadillac fins. The lindberg Coronado might work for this. Assuming one exists.

This kit was reissued earlier this year. I haven't actually seen the parts, and held off buying it but only because of some here who Po Po'd it. I would like to also build this or some other later model Chris Craft. While living on the west coast for many years I had gone to an event at Lake Tahoe that is for wooden boats. Anyone with any interest at all and is anywhere near their when they hold the show should attend. That said I have also seen several some good coverages on YouTube also and that wouldn't cost you anything. 

[landman]

The positive out of this is that now I know where my ChrisCraft engine comes from. ?

[espo]

Very nice looking engine. Did that come out of the AMT 3 in 1 Boat kit or the Lindberg Century ? 

[landman]

11 minutes ago, espo said:

Very nice looking engine. Did that come out of the AMT 3 in 1 Boat kit or the Lindberg Century ? 

Hard to say, I think it is the 3 1n 1. Judging by the blurry photo on the box. We'll see when I get mine.

[Mike999]

5 hours ago, landman said:

I ordere the AMt 3 in one last night. I will build the Mahogany runabout version and likely build an older pickupfor it.If I find one closer to the green and white one I might do it with '59 Cadillac fins. The lindberg Coronado might work for this. Assuming one exists.

The 2 Lindberg boat kits were (re)issued in 2016, the Century Coronado and Owens Outboard Cruiser.  So they shouldn't be too hard to find.  By 2017, Hobby Lobby had them on clearance for US $6.99.  I bought a second Owens Cruiser at that price just to get the outboard motors. 

My original price was $18.89 for the Coronado and $23.92 for the Owens, from HobbyLinc. (I keep spread sheets of what I buy, when I bought it, where I got it and the price. Geeky, I know.)

I checked several online vendors and couldn't find the Coronado.  HobbyLinc still has the Owens Cruiser for $21.79.

http://www.hobbylinc.com/lindberg-owens-outboard-cruiser-boat-plastic-model-ship-kit-1:25-scale-hl222-12

[espo]

8 minutes ago, landman said:

Hard to say, I think it is the 3 1n 1. Judging by the blurry photo on the box. We'll see when I get mine.

I built several of these back when I was still in school. I always thought that the engine was based on the old flathead Chrysler engine for some reason. The V8 engine was just sort of the top end perched on a pedestal on the inside of the haul. You couldn't see anything below anyway.     

[landman]

20 minutes ago, espo said:

I built several of these back when I was still in school. I always thought that the engine was based on the old flathead Chrysler engine for some reason. The V8 engine was just sort of the top end perched on a pedestal on the inside of the haul. You couldn't see anything below anyway.     

Here's the real McCoy.

[stavanzer]

The Coronado has disappeared. Kit reviews at the time noted that since it was a re-pop of a 1959 vintage Pyro kit, that the fit was sloppy, and detail was not good in some places. Kit also have no trailer. There was some discussion about the kit size and scale. For some, it seemed to be vastly oversized and they thought it might be 1/20 scale. I never got it, only the Owens Cruiser, but I'm am hunting one. The Trailer out of one of the Revell Bass Buster kits, would be where I'd start to build a trailer for either of the big Pyro boats. I've seen a couple builds online, and they come out okay.

Good Luck!

[ZTony8]

I bought one of those Coronados. Mine's a flash laden mess. Beware.

[HJK]

On ‎5‎/‎15‎/‎2020 at 4:16 PM, espo said:

Great kit, but about three times what it sold for when reissued. I would love to build another one, but I think the price is a little out of hand here. 

Hey David,

Yes, you're definitely right, $80 Dollars are way too much. I just wanted to show that it's still on the market and sometimes you can strike the lucky punch for little money. As you can see by the wrinkles of the box in my picture it's already an older kit. I didn't buy it as a new kit and I didn't build it so far. But the parts look good and maybe there's a re-issue in future for less money.

Take care

Juergen

[landman]

35 minutes ago, HJK said:

Hey David,

Yes, you're definitely right, $80 Dollars are way too much. I just wanted to show that it's still on the market and sometimes you can strike the lucky punch for little money. As you can see by the wrinkles of the box in my picture it's already an older kit. I didn't buy it as a new kit and I didn't build it so far. But the parts look good and maybe there's a re-issue in future for less money.

Take care

Juergen

It is for me. However I've been known to pay $50 for a 3D printed engine. Go figure.?

Edited May 17, 2020 by landman

[misterNNL]

You could combine the upper section of another Suburban body minus the roof section over the interior with the lower section of the boat for a totally custom boat. Agreeably a Lot more effort but also a really unique end result.

[keyser]

Those boats were really tiny. Large jet-ski tiny. The old jet-ski Revell did in the last 15y? had small trailer too. A start point for the hull. Could look in toy dept too, suspect 1/32 speedboat good start point.

Old River Rat kit had small boat and outboard. RMCM does the Westcraft out of the 64 ElCamino kit too. Chris-Craft is great kit, as are the early AMT and Revell kits. But way too big. 

Still, for inspiration, Mr. Boyd has a boat fetish, as do many. He finishes stuff though

https://public.fotki.com/funman1712/tim-boyds-124th--12/boyd-model-boats/boyd-boats-/?view=roll

Edited May 17, 2020 by keyser

[espo]

2 hours ago, keyser said:

Those boats were really tiny. Large jet-ski tiny. The old jet-ski Revell did in the last 15y? had small trailer too. A start point for the hull. Could look in toy dept too, suspect 1/32 speedboat good start point.

Old River Rat kit had small boat and outboard. RMCM does the Westcraft out of the 64 ElCamino kit too. Chris-Craft is great kit, as are the early AMT and Revell kits. But way too big. 

Still, for inspiration, Mr. Boyd has a boat fetish, as do many. He finishes stuff though

https://public.fotki.com/funman1712/tim-boyds-124th--12/boyd-model-boats/boyd-boats-/?view=roll

He has some beautiful looking boat builds. This is one I built a few years ago based on the same kit.

[keyser]

Calnaga for the win. Managed to score some great Rayson Craft decals off ebay too. I've got a few R-C's, mib and couple complete builders. Killer.

Great build. Like the colors. What'd you do up around the cowl? I like that.

Haven't seen that trailer built in a long time. Always wondered if a 1/72 airplane strut would work as a nose wheel for trailer. 

[espo]

I used Calnaga's complete conversion with the Jet Drive. One of the finest set of castings I've ever used. The colors are based on a ski boat I had years ago and I did a matching '66 Chevelle Wagon to tow the boat. The deck is as found in the kit. The deck has a slight rise going toward the cockpit and has a slight crease on both sides as if it could be used as an anchor for one a black smoked wind deflectors. I was going to try and build one but went on to something else and left it as is. The kits trailer wench is out of scale and doesn't go together well. I did add some diamond plate steps on the trailer since the steps in the kit didn't look good to me.