67 Impala SS grill help

[Spruslayer]

I am just starting on the AMT 67 Impala SS and was looking up reference pics when i noticed that the grills are all not the same for that car.

What i am wondering is which version would i copy to be factory correct,or was the difference related to the color of the car

I am referring to the part of the grill to the outside of the headlights,some are black and some are white.

 

 

[Deuces ll]

Could it be a mid year change????

[Mark]

Some have optional lights in those areas, others don't.  Count the number of cross bars in those areas to figure out which version the kit piece represents, and detail accordingly.   Being an SS427, it does have the correct SS427 emblem in the center of the grille.  SS cars with other engines (all were available, even the straight six) had the offset emblem, and flat hood.

[Snake45]

The white ones are OPTIONAL lights that were available from the beginning of the model year on Impala and Caprice. I don't know if they were offered on Biscayne and BelAir or not. 

Notice also that the white ones have three large sections, the black ones are five smaller sections. 

The Supernatural Impala had the optional light package, and this is accurately reflected in the new AMT kit. 

The standard AMT hardtop kit has the much more common 5-section unlighted fender tips. 

Here endeth the lesson. 

[Spruslayer]

Looks like black it will be on this one,Thank you Mark and Richard

[Danno]

Snake is correct.  But to add additional illumination to the subject, the optional running lights in the fender tips were not available on Bel Airs or Biscaynes.  Impala optional, Caprice standard. Gotta separate out those classes!

[Snake45]

7 minutes ago, Danno said:

But to add additional illumination to the subject...

I see what you did there! 

[Deuces ll]

52 minutes ago, Snake45 said:

The white ones are OPTIONAL lights that were available from the beginning of the model year on Impala and Caprice. I don't know if they were offered on Biscayne and BelAir or not. 

Notice also that the white ones have three large sections, the black ones are five smaller sections. 

The Supernatural Impala had the optional light package, and this is accurately reflected in the new AMT kit. 

The standard AMT hardtop kit has the much more common 5-section unlighted fender tips. 

Here endeth the lesson. 

And I was thinking AMT used the same grill from the 2-door version.... Guess not!... 

Thanks Snake...

[Danno]

1 hour ago, Snake45 said:

I see what you did there! 

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[espo]

14 hours ago, Spruslayer said:

I am just starting on the AMT 67 Impala SS and was looking up reference pics when i noticed that the grills are all not the same for that car.

What i am wondering is which version would i copy to be factory correct,or was the difference related to the color of the car

I am referring to the part of the grill to the outside of the headlights,some are black and some are white.

 

 

As so many of the others have pointed out this has to do with an option for that model. At that time when a car was ordered there were many options and little or no packages as we see in todays cars. As Mark pointed out counting the cross bars would be the best way to tell the difference. In the scale we work with very few would know the difference so I would just paint it white or black depending on the look you're after. As Snake45 mentioned as to if the lights could be had in the lower line cars, the answer is yes. Most buyers bought what the dealer had in the dealership and few would order a car with specific options. I just happened to be one of those at the time that did. I wanted to order a new '67 Bel Air two door in the summer of '67. The order got turned down since the factories were already getting ready to change over to the '68 models. I ordered a '68 Bel Air two door and I ordered the cornering lights as well as under hood and trunk lights. This may sound funny now since we take these lights for granted but at that time they were and extra cost and a lot of dealers didn't order the inventory units with them unless they were the higher end Caprice or Impalas. 

[Snake45]

Even if the cornering lights weren't "offered" on the Biscayne/Bel Air in '67, I'm sure if you really wanted them a dealer would have been happy to order the parts and install them. Or sell them to you and let you do them in your driveway. 

[espo]

48 minutes ago, Snake45 said:

Even if the cornering lights weren't "offered" on the Biscayne/Bel Air in '67, I'm sure if you really wanted them a dealer would have been happy to order the parts and install them. Or sell them to you and let you do them in your driveway. 

Most dealers would do or add anything you were willing to pay for at that time. The Cornering Lights were more involved than you might realize. Changing the trim parts wouldn't be a big deal, but getting into the wiring could get involved plus the cost of the parts not to mention the labor wouldn't make it practical to most buyers. My '66 Impala SS I had the under hood and trunk lights added and they got that done in the time it took to do the purchase paper work so that wasn't a big deal. An example of costs think about their F41 Sport Suspension. This was a $30 some dollar option on an ordered car. This included a larger diameter front Sway Bar and a rear Sway Bar that a normal car wouldn't have had. In addition you got heavier Springs and HD Shocks. Talk about the buy of a life time, this was it.