Hasegawa Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R NiSMO *New Tool*

[niteowl7710]

So Hasegawa in their continuing push to challenge the idea that 31 year old kits are better than new ones announced this morning an all new tool R-32 GT-R.  Everyone's initial reaction seems to be befuddlement bordering on outrage, but if you're really fair in your considerations the Tamiya R32 is 31 years old (as is their Mk III Supra that Hasegawa announced a months or so that's coming in December), and beyond the fact that it does have a motor - well part of the motor anyways as it's never been completely plumbed in terms of the turbos - it's a pretty basic kit these days.  One piece glass, upside down butter container for an interior and so forth.

Edited September 7, 2020 by niteowl7710

[fumi]

Reaction from Japanese modellers is overwhelmingly positive.  It's a proper Nismo version, it will have correct projector or halogen headlights for different teams and it will have detailed interior for both street and race versions.

All the existing R32 kits have their fair share of problems.  Tamiya's body is too muscular, the trunk area has some very nasty mold parting lines that are difficult to remove, the hood will not close with the wipers installed, and the A pillars are very prone to deform.  Fujimi is supposed to be better proportioned but the interior leaves something to desire.  Aoshima's body is too angular and it's quite clear the kit was designed in Aoshima's transition period with the awful shared chassis.  All have badly defined headlight buckets for projector lights only, out of scale Nismo side steps and front ducts, a hole in the rear windshield and wiper motor in the package shelf which is wrong for the Nismo version and the race cars.

Hasegawa knows their market well, I have not seen any of their car release flop so far.  The R32 will be a home run for them.

Edited September 7, 2020 by fumi

[Spottedlaurel]

Lots of scope for racing versions too, which they like to offer.

Amazing to think the Tamiya version is 31 years old!

[niteowl7710]

12 hours ago, fumi said:

Hasegawa knows their market well, I have not seen any of their car release flop so far.

I have to say I'm very leery of their choice to turn their Lancer into a rally car and kit the EXACT same 1982 Finland 1000 Lakes livery that NuNu is doing, and will have to market 2-3 months earlier. It seems like the potential to split customers and in the end not sell well for either company. 

[martinfan5]

I was at first questioning the decision to do it , but was reminded of all the Group A possibility then it made sense, and I should of known , silly me to question Hasegawa.

Ive built 3 of Tamiya's R31 kits( 1 original and 2 of the NIsmo) and yeah, the tooling does show the age but build do build up nicely.   I agree with Silvester about the trunk mold lines, its bad. 

I am more looking forward to seeing what GrA stuff they do,  I am pretty sure they are going to one in Calsonic livery and that will please me.

[fumi]

13 hours ago, niteowl7710 said:

I have to say I'm very leery of their choice to turn their Lancer into a rally car and kit the EXACT same 1982 Finland 1000 Lakes livery that NuNu is doing, and will have to market 2-3 months earlier. It seems like the potential to split customers and in the end not sell well for either company. 

I heard many Japanese modellers are holding their purchase for the Lancer until they see the Hasegawa release, even when Beemax released theirs one year ahead.  I think this is going to hurt NuNu more.

A lot of modellers will buy the rally kit and build it has street custom.  It would be easier for them to get the Hasegawa kit and order sprue J from after service for the RHD dash board.  That should also help them move their kits.

16 hours ago, Spottedlaurel said:

Lots of scope for racing versions too, which they like to offer.

12 hours ago, martinfan5 said:

I am more looking forward to seeing what GrA stuff they do,  I am pretty sure they are going to one in Calsonic livery and that will please me.

The Calsonic and Taisan are a given.  I'd also like to see the Reebok, Kyoseki and HKS livery from the JTC, as well as the Castrol from Macau Guia winner and Zexel from Spa.

But whatever Hasegawa cannot do the aftermarket can easily fill the void, not only decal but also wheel and mirror sets.  

[afx]

I have Fujimi's Group A kit.  Nice kit IMHO.

Edited September 8, 2020 by afx

[niteowl7710]

3 hours ago, fumi said:

The Calsonic and Taisan are a given.  I'd also like to see the Reebok, Kyoseki and HKS livery from the JTC, as well as the Castrol from Macau Guia winner and Zexel from Spa.

But whatever Hasegawa cannot do the aftermarket can easily fill the void, not only decal but also wheel and mirror sets.  

The Reebok livery driven by Hasemi to the 1991 Championship would be much appreciated. For some reason, other than a long out of print Studio27 sheet nobody has made decals for that car.

I'd personally still like to see a Gr. A Supra too, the Tamiya one has never been reissued and the car ran at Spa and Macau on top of being in JTC for a few seasons.

[Justin Porter]

The Tamiya street car kit remains a strong seller at my shop on account of Tamiya keeping the MSRP low and the kit going together reasonably easily for its age. There's definitely room in the market, though, for an updated version as I agree that the interior really isn't up to snuff in terms of detail and the engraving on the chassis could be much better. 

It would be nice, too, if Hasegawa engineers the kit with male hubs instead of female hubs so that aftermarket wheel sets could be readily used. That's one of the big Achilles heels of the Tamiya kit from a lot of builder's perspectives. 

[echoxrayniner]

There's something about Hasegawa's Historic Cars series that really tickles my fancy, even a well-thread subject like the R32 Skyline is appreciated, especially since they always do four or so 'editions' before going to the next subject. Hell, given the sheer quality of the what, five different R31 kits, this one's on my to buy list for sure.

[martinfan5]

10 hours ago, fumi said:

The Calsonic and Taisan are a given.  I'd also like to see the Reebok, Kyoseki and HKS livery from the JTC, as well as the Castrol from Macau Guia winner and Zexel from Spa.

But whatever Hasegawa cannot do the aftermarket can easily fill the void, not only decal but also wheel and mirror sets.  

Right, I hope the first one they do is the Calsonic, and I would be surprised if it wasnt.

[fumi]

On 9/8/2020 at 10:46 PM, niteowl7710 said:

The Reebok livery driven by Hasemi to the 1991 Championship would be much appreciated. For some reason, other than a long out of print Studio27 sheet nobody has made decals for that car.

Licensing issue with Adidas?  Seems both Aoshima and Fujimi issued Reebok Skylines in 2004, one year before Adidas started the takeover process of Reebok.   

[niteowl7710]

7 minutes ago, fumi said:

Licensing issue with Adidas?  Seems both Aoshima and Fujimi issued Reebok Skylines in 2004, one year before Adidas started the takeover process of Reebok.   

They did, but neither are the 1991 season Hasemi Motorsports ran their GT-R with #50/#3 Reebok livery because of some registration error that took place and the Impul Calsonic wound up with the #1 instead of the #12 which forced Hasemi to run the one year odd numbers. Pretty sure Decalpool offers the 1990 Reebok car livery, along with the '89 season R31.

Edited September 10, 2020 by niteowl7710

[fumi]

Hasegawa has shown photos of the built up, looks very promising.  Finally the Nismo sidestep and the front bumper ducts are properly scaled and not a huge blob of plastic.

My only gripe is the tyres, nicely done Pirelli P7 with side wall engraving that should have been Potenza RE71.  But I guess I can live with that.

http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/product/hc39/

[martinfan5]

Yeah that looks good.

[Fat Brian]

I'm going to need one of those. 

[niteowl7710]

Hasegawa has released test shot photos of the parts on the runners.

http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/hc39b/

[Fat Brian]

The floor pan piece seems to hint at future race versions since it looks like it doesn't have carpet.

[fumi]

Race versions with different liveries and wheels are a given, they have already tooled the faces for all 4 types of mirrors used by different teams in the chrome sprue.  The projector light housings, which are not used by most of the teams, are also on its own sprue.  With the Nismo bits all on a separate sprue, I would also expect Spec V and Spec V-II variants with new BBS wheels but without the Nismo sprue.

Edited October 23, 2020 by fumi

[niteowl7710]

Speaking of which, slated for mid-January is the first livery. Overall Winner for Race #2 of the 1993 JTCC season.

[Justin Porter]

8 hours ago, niteowl7710 said:

Speaking of which, slated for mid-January is the first livery. Overall Winner for Race #2 of the 1993 JTCC season.

Very classic scheme and nice to see instead of going the more common Calsonic route. 

[fumi]

Makes sense as this particular scheme of 1993 Taisan was never released before and Tsuchiya "Drift King" Keiichi drove it to victory.  It also helps snag sales as people who cannot wait for the Calsonic version will get this first and get the Calsonic one afterwards anyway.  If it is done the other way round a lot of people will stop at one.

From Hasegawa's web site the kit will come with proper single wiper, trunk lid with the fuel filler holes opened as well as brake ducts, race suspension, aero mirrors and proper interior bits.

http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/product/hc41/

Edited November 6, 2020 by fumi

[martinfan5]

5 hours ago, fumi said:

 If it is done the other way round a lot of people will stop at one.

 

Honestly, that probably would of been me, but now I will get this one too ( Whats In The Box Video).