moparfarmer Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, blunc said: Even before the pandemic came along, the crew that puts on the Desert Scale Classic go to great lengths to put on a fair and unbiased show/critically judged contest ( as has been going on for many years in Arizona even before Desert Scale Classic came to be). The best entries in each class would get rewarded no matter who entered. There will always be entrants that care more about the trophy than learning or the camaraderie, those types usually don't come back when they don't get a trophy. We, as modellers need to remember that we will always build to our own standards, a contest is a measuring stick of our progress (if we care to compete), a show is a social gathering to share our passions...sometimes a contest is both. A voting system needs to take into account how it can/will be abused and take steps to mitigate the downsides or the show will spiral due to bad press. Social media is a multi-edged sword. On a side note at model show..I build box stock and clean..I love to do cars with ugliness or plain looking cars and hang around my entries..I like to hear the comments then walk away..An IPMS show in Winnipeg had a know it all member who said the paint on my car was not like a real car//Too thick and out of scale and the hood wasn't correct for a 64 Dodge..Asked him later on at a different table if he knew anything about cars and he said they run on gas,have four wheels and are trasportation..He's right but he shouldn't be judging an automotive class..Thats IPMS and a different set all together..
keyser Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 Afraid? ??? Embarrassed at your sweeping generalizations about ACME would be a non-narcissistic response. Others have pointed out how NNL works. It seems likely you’re aware. Votes go how they go. It’s a pandemic. It’s an online contest. Kids can write code to vote. Who cares what won? At least you’ll be remembered thru lunchtime if you pass next time. ACME guys probably wont sleep more than 7-8hr a night worrying. What a ridiculous thread. Not what I expected when I clicked on it.
bobthehobbyguy Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 5 hours ago, niteowl7710 said: I'm sorry but the entire and perhaps unintentional irony to this entire thread is complaining about the judging and/balloting processes used at an NNL Show. The entire point of an NNL's very existence being that it's not supposed to give our awards. The Toledo (original) NNL only gave out 4-6 depending on the year, and NNL East has followed suit. In real life the Acme Show gives out a Best of Show, Best Theme, and then a Top 10 within People's Choice voting. So comparing that to something co-run with Kalmbach as a photo show with multiple category winners isn't even apples to oranges, more like apples to snow plows. Even within the spirit of "The NNL", these shows that do Top 10s/12/15/20 are only doing so because the clubs putting on the shows caved to the peer pressure of people kvetching and moaning about not winning something at a show who's whole point is...NOT COMPETING. All this continued belly aching is going to do is make clubs who were thinking about running their Spring shows online bail on the idea, and people who might otherwise "compete" in them shun them because of how "unfair" they are. Then we'll be sitting here next summer bemoaning the fact that there wasn't anything to do this Spring. Bingo. Best response!
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