Early Cobra 427 racers: Seat belts and misc other items

[kjohan]

Thank you all for your encouragement and help with information

/ Gunnar

[kjohan]

Re Rick´s very instructive photos

My understanding from them is that the foot boxes had the naked FRP coulor "all around" on the outside in ther engine bay,'
when the cars were delievered to the customer
(unless the owner choose to paint them I assume)

Also the "naked" FRP under the car up to the joint with the steel floor ?

On the inside, judging from the top photo, it seems like black or dark grey colour was applied, 
which has been worn/ the FRP colour coming through under the pedals

Correct understanding ?
 

/ Gunnar
 

[peteski]

Thanks for the confirmation on the grease gun.

I recall an old fashion "clicky" oiler mounted in the engine compartment of a V16 Cadillac from the '30s.  Back then lots of things required frequent manual oiling.

But what was the purpose of a grease gun in a Cobra?  What was the driver supposed to grease "on the fly".  Why not keep the grease gun in the garage to be used after riding the car?

[kjohan]

Another thing which makes me confused: Oil pans on the engines in the various Revell kits

Have built or in the stash:
- the "blue kit", where the kit is supposed to depict the CSX3002 (though the body nose area is incorrect), this actual car having a dry-sump lubrication
   but in the kit there is no filler on the right fender, nor an oil tank inside the fender
- the King Cobra / Baldwin - Motion drag racer
- The Feinstein CSX 3009 (ex Essex Wire)  alt the Keck CX3008  (both cars more or less possible with the content of that kit)

Pictures of the  actual King Cobra / Feinstein / Keck  cars certainly shows no filler on the right fender,
said to be the visible sign of a dry sump car, those being very few
So presumably they are "wet sump cars"

All three kits have the same , a rather thin "shallow", more or less flat oil pan
Which perhaps could be dry sump pan , in that case relevant for the first one, CSX 3002 (though still incorrect for the reason above)
The sumps for the cars with wet sump systems i assume should have had a deeper hump/tray ?

Have built the Fujimi Essex wire car CSX 3009 and that kit have a deeper hump)

So my confusion is:

What kind of sump is it, which is used commonly in all these Revell kits, depicting cars with most likely different oil system ?
And therefore perhaps should have had different execution of the sumps ?
What is the correct sump for the CSX3008 and 3009/ how does it look ?

Have been through many net sites , no conclusion possible for me
 

 

 

[kjohan]

Concerning location of batteries (again)

Earlier in the thread I learned that the (dual) batteries were located behind the passenger seat in the 427 (Mk3) racers

What about the early M1/Mk2 racers , like the ones driven by Miles, McDonald in 1963/-64?
Where did they have the battery/ And how many ?

[vamach1]

Came across these pictures recently.

[afx]

First time I've seen Minilite wheels mounted with knockoffs that I can recall.

[kjohan]

Re JC photo of Feinstein  Cobra provided @ Sept 23:
On the photo of the car in the green livery, it seems that the windscreen is a very wide and low screen, almost lying flat to the body
(while on the new photos from Rex of the model as well on the actual car,
presumably in an earlier execution, has a small/narrow and upright screen)
Correct or do i misread the Sept 23 photo ?

 

[afx]

Gunnar, all photos are the same car (CSX3009) just different periods in time.  These cars were continuously evolving race-to-race.  To build a truly accurate replica you have to pick a specific period in time to represent the car.

Edited February 4, 2022 by afx

[kjohan]

Yes JC , that is clear

I just wasn´t sure how to interpret the photo of the green version in the photo upper right corner
From that angle I see it as there is a low, almost flat windscreen over the entire width of the "cock pit"
Maybe a slight cut out, with a low flange upwards, in front of the driver ?
Correct ? Or should it be understood in another way ?

[afx]

Another variation of the windscreen with a separate deflector. There does appear to be a cutout above the steering wheel for hand clearance I assume.

Edited February 4, 2022 by afx

[kjohan]

JC Thanks for the very ilustrative photos

Will be very helpful, once I come to that box in the stash of kits
There are a couple ahead in the que, two old Fords and a BMC MiniCooper

But there´s no rush......