Dpate Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Milo said: No, I've given up on the model, I'm just going to start fresh on a new one. How do I clean the flash off on the fenders and under the tail lights? Your pics aren’t loading
Milo Posted June 3, 2023 Author Posted June 3, 2023 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/chat_attachment/ADqTrmwfnH7WUawp8kOYvBD-0bllWt1spUZQHpq4_702cWoLbWW-ERXkL4vDXnU-w2FJxnJ6DAaYTkc3kee4c6Yh4DZqBLnHGevnxs017lO6HR0q2kUTzmoxt6Crzswtrk4XDhdJ-7DAnNwcIb3l4nlFefQvYtJDbH6jnmpvRjrd1pjI5smHC64zRDL1mlVkeWDBovOQSzLB4eY-Iw6aV3l0qC57jS96wbVYUMVrOeGriHTXUfAAVoCZAL3wrdpsOr7c5IuR2TkJ0UYPpnM_m8zIJ7uHkt0WZ7c15giXQZtAYnXorD4znpK1z0iy2-IF_g=w512 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/chat_attachment/ADqTrmzIDjI_72l8EcUZFWh3NPckRSMAEBfodTcIIHOPSWB2U25p2nH_vvDY3Aoj06HLZP_i9TVg1Dwz3fhOUgNwaLmdDEvxwnE9wC-q3YDqESLklIN6GZzwX228cRxWfMkMQtsBm7UwzUIrIPVFLhLUa8AGDtFJbSQpqYevFJCjovqL87YyTP6RVvi7PoBAEUKIXBv5DWPFCPN_bCmlGfTcvZnqyIyYlQgtAsZnu4ZexQnyVjW37BJcw0m7i3yEGd2S8mqPRnIib0qYoed_uBp9iYV4X2cVoB_uEVZt6L9xJRLnyUpOz1JM3c3nlwch_A=w1879-h931
Bugatti Fan Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 Milo, you sound new to the hobby that I hope you will enjoy from now on. There is a lot of sound advice scattered all over this forum, but my bit of advice is to get yourself a good book aimed at starting the automotive modelling hobby that will take you step by step through all the build stages, and advising on suitable adhesives, paints etc. A quick look on Amazon should yield something aimed at people starting out in the hobby. Good luck with your new endeavours! 2
atomicholiday Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Bugatti Fan said: Milo, you sound new to the hobby that I hope you will enjoy from now on. There is a lot of sound advice scattered all over this forum, but my bit of advice is to get yourself a good book aimed at starting the automotive modelling hobby that will take you step by step through all the build stages, and advising on suitable adhesives, paints etc. A quick look on Amazon should yield something aimed at people starting out in the hobby. Good luck with your new endeavours! Completely agree with this advice. Also, check out YouTube. Just being able to see someone doing this stuff is extremely helpful. I pull up modelling specific videos all the time, and have learned a lot from them. Stick with it and don't get discouraged. We've all gone through this. It gets easier with practice and a little help. 1
StevenGuthmiller Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 6 hours ago, atomicholiday said: Completely agree with this advice. Also, check out YouTube. Just being able to see someone doing this stuff is extremely helpful. I pull up modelling specific videos all the time, and have learned a lot from them. Stick with it and don't get discouraged. We've all gone through this. It gets easier with practice and a little help. I agree. If you're new to the hobby, you have a considerable road ahead of you. This hobby is not for the "instant gratification" crowd. It takes more than a casual desire to throw together a couple of models. It takes commitment and drive to get really good at it. First order of business in my opinion, is to think hard about whether or not this is something that you will really love doing, or if it's just more of a passing fancy. I can't tell you how often I've seen guys accumulating hundreds, or even thousands of dollars worth of kits, supplies and materials over the course of a year or so, only to be trying to sell it all off the next year. Some of them without ever doing any work on a model at all. They see pictures of some beautifully built models on line, and think, "i can do that" without having a clue of what is involved with getting to that point. I don't want to discourage anyone, but unless this hobby is something that really trips your trigger, and something that you're committed to for the long haul, it's likely not going to materialize into a whole lot. Steve 4
Milo Posted June 3, 2023 Author Posted June 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, StevenGuthmiller said: I agree. If you're new to the hobby, you have a considerable road ahead of you. This hobby is not for the "instant gratification" crowd. It takes more than a casual desire to throw together a couple of models. It takes commitment and drive to get really good at it. First order of business in my opinion, is to think hard about whether or not this is something that you will really love doing, or if it's just more of a passing fancy. I can't tell you how often I've seen guys accumulating hundreds, or even thousands of dollars worth of kits, supplies and materials over the course of a year or so, only to be trying to sell it all off the next year. Some of them without ever doing any work on a model at all. They see pictures of some beautifully built models on line, and think, "i can do that" without having a clue of what is involved with getting to that point. I don't want to discourage anyone, but unless this hobby is something that really trips your trigger, and something that you're committed to for the long haul, it's likely not going to materialize into a whole lot. Steve Well, I guess I'm on a good track then. I've only spent about 200-300 dollars and I've been doing models off and on for the past year or two without any want of quitting, even with lots of failure. 4
Ace-Garageguy Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, StevenGuthmiller said: This hobby is not for the "instant gratification" crowd. It takes more than a casual desire to throw together a couple of models. It takes commitment and drive to get really good at it. Yup. The man speaks truth...but it takes more than a casual desire to get really good at anything, even if you're a prodigy. Short attention spans and looking for where to place blame for less-than-stellar results just won't get you there. Edited June 3, 2023 by Ace-Garageguy 2
Bugatti Fan Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 Looks like you have the right mindset Milo. We all learn from having failures, but it is picking yourself up after each one that is important and learning from them. There was an advert I saw on UK TV a number of years ago where an elderly lady in New York came across a workman digging up the road. She asked the workman ' Can you tell me the best way to get to Carnegie Hall?' To which he replied, 'Lady, you gotta practice!' 1
atomicholiday Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Milo said: Well, I guess I'm on a good track then. I've only spent about 200-300 dollars and I've been doing models off and on for the past year or two without any want of quitting, even with lots of failure. That’s great! Just stick with it and take your time. Read every WIP thread, tips and tricks thread and questions thread you can stand, watch videos, etc…. It does get easier with experience.
StevenGuthmiller Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Milo said: Well, I guess I'm on a good track then. I've only spent about 200-300 dollars and I've been doing models off and on for the past year or two without any want of quitting, even with lots of failure. Sounds like you have the basic inclination required then. Now settle in for a long and illustrious ride! Steve
Ace-Garageguy Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Bugatti Fan said: ...We all learn from having failures, but it is picking yourself up after each one that is important and learning from them. Yup, nobody here, or even world-class masters like Gerald Wingrove, came out of the egg knowing how to do sweet Fanny Adams. And just a thought...if you do get so frustrated on one particular model, don't throw it out. You can always prime and practice painting on even the worst fubarred bodies, and all the parts can find homes on other stuff eventually. You might be surprised, but even total garbage can be recycled into a cool model. Click the link below. Edited June 3, 2023 by Ace-Garageguy 1
Milo Posted June 3, 2023 Author Posted June 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Bugatti Fan said: Looks like you have the right mindset Milo. We all learn from having failures, but it is picking yourself up after each one that is important and learning from them. There was an advert I saw on UK TV a number of years ago where an elderly lady in New York came across a workman digging up the road. She asked the workman ' Can you tell me the best way to get to Carnegie Hall?' To which he replied, 'Lady, you gotta practice!' I've actually played at Carnegie hall
StevenGuthmiller Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Ace-Garageguy said: Yup, nobody here, or even world-class masters like Gerald Wingrove, came out of the egg knowing how to do sweet Fanny Adams. And just a thought...if you do get so frustrated on one particular model, don't throw it out. You can always prime and practice painting on even the worst fubarred bodies, and all the parts can find homes on other stuff eventually. You might be surprised, but even total garbage can be recycled into a cool model. Click the link below. And if the body in question was painted with enamels, it's a pretty quick and easy operation to strip the paint and begin again. There really shouldn't be any reason to ever toss out a body because of a bad paint job. Chances are extremely high that it will be salvageable. Steve
Dpate Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 16 hours ago, Milo said: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/chat_attachment/ADqTrmwfnH7WUawp8kOYvBD-0bllWt1spUZQHpq4_702cWoLbWW-ERXkL4vDXnU-w2FJxnJ6DAaYTkc3kee4c6Yh4DZqBLnHGevnxs017lO6HR0q2kUTzmoxt6Crzswtrk4XDhdJ-7DAnNwcIb3l4nlFefQvYtJDbH6jnmpvRjrd1pjI5smHC64zRDL1mlVkeWDBovOQSzLB4eY-Iw6aV3l0qC57jS96wbVYUMVrOeGriHTXUfAAVoCZAL3wrdpsOr7c5IuR2TkJ0UYPpnM_m8zIJ7uHkt0WZ7c15giXQZtAYnXorD4znpK1z0iy2-IF_g=w512 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/chat_attachment/ADqTrmzIDjI_72l8EcUZFWh3NPckRSMAEBfodTcIIHOPSWB2U25p2nH_vvDY3Aoj06HLZP_i9TVg1Dwz3fhOUgNwaLmdDEvxwnE9wC-q3YDqESLklIN6GZzwX228cRxWfMkMQtsBm7UwzUIrIPVFLhLUa8AGDtFJbSQpqYevFJCjovqL87YyTP6RVvi7PoBAEUKIXBv5DWPFCPN_bCmlGfTcvZnqyIyYlQgtAsZnu4ZexQnyVjW37BJcw0m7i3yEGd2S8mqPRnIib0qYoed_uBp9iYV4X2cVoB_uEVZt6L9xJRLnyUpOz1JM3c3nlwch_A=w1879-h931 That gives an error. Add them directly to your post.
Milo Posted June 3, 2023 Author Posted June 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Dpate said: That gives an error. Add them directly to your post.
Dpate Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Milo said: You probably won’t have the special tool I use, but you can get same results using the back side of a xacto blade by gliding it across on an angle. Then go over it with 600 grit sanding sponge. Same for the inside window, but use the sharp side of the blade to gently cut off the flash, and then smooth it out with 600 grit. But the way the rear end looks you could get away with 400 grit, and than 600 to smooth it out. Be careful with sanding let the paper do the work doesn’t need lot of pressure. Edited June 4, 2023 by Dpate
Bills72sj Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 5 hours ago, Milo said: Get a set of metal jewelers files. I always deflash with a #11 Exacto blade and files. They last virtually forever compared to sanding sticks. https://www.harborfreight.com/12-piece-precision-needle-file-set-4614.html
reny2k1 Posted January 8 Posted January 8 On 5/31/2023 at 8:49 PM, Sidney Schwartz said: There are a couple of ways to deal with paint that may make it difficult to fit parts together for gluing. One, prior to painting you can mask the places where the pieces join so they will not be painted, for example pins and the holes the fit in to. I've used masking fluid for this and it works pretty well. Two, you can skip masking and then scrape the paint off as necessary when gluing parts together. In my experience both methods take about the same amount of time and trouble. These days I usually go with scraping after painting. Elmers should work for clear parts. Or there's something called "canopy glue" which is very similar. I've used both. Keep in mind that parts joined with pretty much any kind of glue will separate if subjected to enough stress. Once parts are glued they should be handled carefully. CA glue ("super glue") is used by many of us, but you have to be very careful using it with clear parts to not get it where it will show. The nice thing about Elmers and other white glues is that they are usually very easy to remove from where you don't want them. Painting is an art in itself and will take time and experimentation to learn. There are hundreds of Youtube videos that teach all aspects of model building. I strongly recommend that you watch some videos that explain how to use different types of paint and methods of applying it. My own preference is to spray everything except for very small parts. I use rattle cans and an airbrush. Which one I use depends on the type of paint I find that is the color I want. Also look for videos on the many different types of glues and how and when to use them. Try not to worry about mistakes. You'll make them, and with experience you'll make fewer of them. Your skills will improve with each model. Maaaan! I have tinkered with models in the past but thought I’d try one to get my feet wet again. I came here for painting tips and realized there are some hardcore professionals on here doing far more than tinkering. Thanks for sharing all the different techniques. I’m off to try and recover from my rookie mistakes.
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