presnell Posted February 15 Posted February 15 when I was building engines for SBR YEARS ago we ran Jones wet belt drives with NO PROBLEMS Harry won 4 in a row in September 1991.
Ace-Garageguy Posted February 15 Author Posted February 15 (edited) 5 hours ago, presnell said: when I was building engines for SBR YEARS ago we ran Jones wet belt drives with NO PROBLEMS Harry won 4 in a row in September 1991. You don't expect those to run for 100,000 miles, they're way more robust than these production belts, they're shorter and wider, and they don't run immersed in oil like the oil-pump belts do. Kinda different. I wouldn't have any problem trusting a Jones, Jesel, or similar setup on a racing engine that gets frequent inspections and maintenance. But on a daily driver on the street? Nope nope nope. Nope. Edited February 16 by Ace-Garageguy TYPO 2 1
presnell Posted February 16 Posted February 16 No i was agreeing with you, there is a place for most everything but a wet belt aint for the daily driver, Sorry if you thought I was disagreeing. Jim 1
dmthamade Posted February 16 Posted February 16 Yup!! Another example of sketchy engineering. Have to say, ALL manufacurers have done these kinds of misguided engineering "breakthroughs". Not much really suprises me anymore, last one was the 3 cylinder variable compression Nissan engine, in the Rogue, Dumbassery at its finest. Don 3
1930fordpickup Posted February 16 Posted February 16 Boss- What is cheaper Engineer- rubber belt Boss- thinks in their head about the increase in bonus Boss replys- great idea I will be gone with my golden parachute and this engineer will get the blame. Oops did I say that outloud . 2
Mark Posted February 16 Posted February 16 4 hours ago, espo said: Another one of Fords "Better Ideas? Have they been using those in their undersize truck engines? If so, it's probably a factor in the F-series not being the best-selling vehicle after close to 40 years... 1
Ace-Garageguy Posted February 16 Author Posted February 16 4 hours ago, espo said: Another one of Fords "Better Ideas? And it was such a great one, many other manufacturers jumped on the bandwagon...and are having the same problems. This is the kind of stuff that happens when engineers look down their noses at the greasy-hands guys who actually know how stuff fails from real-world experience. 3
johnyrotten Posted February 17 Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Ace-Garageguy said: This is the kind of stuff that happens when engineers look down their noses at the greasy-hands guys who actually know how stuff fails from real-world experience. Which is exactly why I'm in the position I'm in currently. Let's fasten the 15" oil pickup with ONE bolt, and let the o ring take the stress. All for a few pennies. 3
dmthamade Posted February 17 Posted February 17 4 hours ago, johnyrotten said: Which is exactly why I'm in the position I'm in currently. Let's fasten the 15" oil pickup with ONE bolt, and let the o ring take the stress. All for a few pennies. LS? Don
johnyrotten Posted February 17 Posted February 17 4 hours ago, dmthamade said: LS? Don Yes, and 4wd so dropping the pan means dropping the front diff. All for a 5 dollar o-ring. 2
dmthamade Posted February 17 Posted February 17 5 hours ago, johnyrotten said: Yes, and 4wd so dropping the pan means dropping the front diff. All for a 5 dollar o-ring. Fun times. There are LS oil pickup tube supports or braces available. Simple add-on, gives great peace of mind. Don
johnyrotten Posted February 17 Posted February 17 26 minutes ago, dmthamade said: Fun times. There are LS oil pickup tube supports or braces available. Simple add-on, gives great peace of mind. Don Already order one up. I've been putting funds aside to eliminate the dod and afm. I really don't want to nuke this engine. 1
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