Will R2 going to put any models this month?

[Mark C.]

Great catch, Tim.  Problem is, those MPC C-bodies are not so cheap and easy to find, so for a cheapskate like me, the best solution is to find a readily available kit, that may be close enough (but no cigar), and go from there.  It’s unibody, has leaf springs and torsion bars, and if you wanted to get creative you could probably fashion a subframe from evergreen strips that mimics the real deal.  If one wants to rivet count, you might want to scoop some fender liners from a junk GM kit and paint them body colour to bring the engine room appearance a little closer… depends upon how far you want to go.  Most probably wouldn’t notice, and the bonus of models is that you don’t have to make it functional.  That said, if someone has a stash of ‘65-‘66 Polaras and Monacos, then go that route.  I’ve wanted one of those for a long time, but never found one in my price range.

But if R2 or Revell want to do up a 1:25 Sport Fury GT, I won’t complain (though my wife might, when the credit card bill comes in…).

Edited March 10 by Mark C.

[drksd4848]

On 3/7/2025 at 4:12 PM, Junkman said:

There will never be a kit of a full size Mopar from the Fuselage era.

Nor will there be a reissue kit of a mid-sized Mopar from that year, or the year before apparently. 

Edited March 10 by drksd4848

[oldcarfan]

I don't have any interest in 1/64th diecasts, but I don't begrudge Round2's emphasis on them. Judging from the collectors I've seen in stores searching for cars they don't have I suspect that those little cars are the backbone of Round2's  business model. They may well subsidize the model kit line.

[chryslerjunkandstuff]

On 3/7/2025 at 4:12 PM, Junkman said:

I appreciate your train of thought, but alas.
I guarantee you, the closest thing to our dreams we will ever see is this fake box art I did years ago, and it's not even the same year.

There will never be a kit of a full size Mopar from the Fuselage era.

Yes, there will eventually be an injection molded styrene, bona-fide model kit done of a, or several, Fuselage Era MoPars..

As much as I like Round2, I wouldn't count on them to be the ones to do it..

This seems like something that one could see Moebius getting into..

and if they did tool up some Fuselage cars, they'd probably be something along the lines of a '70-'71 Plymouth Sport Fury GT, a '70-'73 Imperial, and a '70 Chrysler 300 Hurst..

and they would be EXCELLENT!

And what kit builder among us can honestly say that they WOULDN'T buy one?

That is correct, NONE of you would say that..

Ever dang one of us sees THIS ^^^^^^ in a box that says Moebius on it is gonna have to have one!

Edited March 10 by chryslerjunkandstuff

[slusher]

21 minutes ago, chryslerjunkandstuff said:

Yes, there will eventually be an injection molded styrene, bona-fide model kit done of a, or several, Fuselage Era MoPars..

As much as I like Round2, I wouldn't count on them to be the ones to do it..

This seems like something that one could see Moebius getting into..

and if they did tool up some Fuselage cars, they'd probably be something along the lines of a '70-'71 Plymouth Sport Fury GT, a '70-'73 Imperial, and a '70 Chrysler 300 Hurst..

and they would be EXCELLENT!

And what kit builder among us can honestly say that they WOULDN'T buy one?

That is correct, NONE of you would say that..

Ever dang one of us sees THIS ^^^^^^ in a box that says Moebius on it is gonna have to have one!

I woululd love to see the Chrysler 300 Hurst an I would want more then one. I love Mopar kits and have seehighe school guys buying Mopar kits from the 70’s at HL."

[RSchnell]

56 minutes ago, chryslerjunkandstuff said:

Yes, there will eventually be an injection molded styrene, bona-fide model kit done of a, or several, Fuselage Era MoPars..

As much as I like Round2, I wouldn't count on them to be the ones to do it..

This seems like something that one could see Moebius getting into..

and if they did tool up some Fuselage cars, they'd probably be something along the lines of a '70-'71 Plymouth Sport Fury GT, a '70-'73 Imperial, and a '70 Chrysler 300 Hurst..

and they would be EXCELLENT!

And what kit builder among us can honestly say that they WOULDN'T buy one?

That is correct, NONE of you would say that..

Ever dang one of us sees THIS ^^^^^^ in a box that says Moebius on it is gonna have to have one!

I wouldn't buy one simply because the subject matter doesn't interest me at all. I suspect I'm not the only one!

[chryslerjunkandstuff]

25 minutes ago, RSchnell said:

I wouldn't buy one simply because the subject matter doesn't interest me at all. I suspect I'm not the only one!

I've seen it happen where dudes say that about a kit, but THEN, they see all the builds people are doin, see how nice it is, etc, etc..

And then buy it anyway!

[chryslerjunkandstuff]

57 minutes ago, slusher said:

I woululd love to see the Chrysler 300 Hurst an I would want more then one. I love Mopar kits and have seehighe school guys buying Mopar kits from the 70’s at HL."

Yeah dude, I'd freakin buy a case of these things if someone ever did make em!

[Tabbysdaddy]

I wouldn't buy one either. 

[Mark C.]

I would buy at least 2 of each variation… say the 300 Hurst, a standard 300 hardtop and a convertible?

If it were a Plymouth version… Sport Fury GT hardtop, Sport Fury convertible, and maybe a 4-door cop car?

Dodge? Monaco hardtop and convertible, and IIRC the CHP were partial to the big Dodge sedans of the era… so Polara CHP cruiser?

 However it’s not everybody’s cup of tea, I understand.

[Carmak]

If I put my business hat on, I feel the best bet for sales would be a craftsman plus style (think the Lindberg Crown Vic) Blues Brothers (blues-mobile and Chicago squad car)/early Dukes squad car/"your state here" Squad car.

Round2 currently has a Blues Brothers license (not sure if they currently have a Dukes of Hazzard license). I could see a blues-mobile/red pinto wagon two car set (or a blues-mobile/100 Chicago squad car set  ).

This would sell well to many different groups: Movie people, squad car people, diorama people, general kit builders and the derby car builders.

Personally, I would wish for a 70 Fury GT  

[Stef]

27 minutes ago, Carmak said:

...I would wish for a 70 Fury GT  

awwwww yisssssss

[PintoKING]

A few kits that, to me, should be ripe for an easy reissue, hopefully this year or soon:

MPC 1981 Chevy Chevette

MPC 1982 Chevy Cavalier

MPC 1974 Dodge Charger

MPC 1988 Pontiac Fiero

MPC 1932 Chevrolet roadster

MPC 1972 Plymouth Roadrunner

MPC Chevy Corvette "Mako Shark"  (last issued as "Custom Corvette")

MPC Chevy Corvette "Vette Van"

MPC Pinto Pro-Stock

MPC "The Grand Superfly" Pontiac

AMT Chevy van "open road camper"

AMT AMC Matador "X" custom

AMT American LaFrance pumper fire truck

ERTL International F-4270 truck

ERTL International F-2575 truck

ERTL International F-2674 truck

Edited March 10 by PintoKING

[niteowl7710]

1 hour ago, Carmak said:

If I put my business hat on, I feel the best bet for sales would be a craftsman plus style (think the Lindberg Crown Vic) Blues Brothers (blues-mobile and Chicago squad car)/early Dukes squad car/"your state here" Squad car.

Round2 currently has a Blues Brothers license (not sure if they currently have a Dukes of Hazzard license). I could see a blues-mobile/red pinto wagon two car set (or a blues-mobile/100 Chicago squad car set  ).

This would sell well to many different groups: Movie people, squad car people, diorama people, general kit builders and the derby car builders.

Personally, I would wish for a 70 Fury GT  

Nobody has a Dukes of Hazzard license, those don't exist anymore for anyone.

Having a license for a diecast would in theory smooth the road to a kit as a door opener, but otherwise means nothing.  You'd have to license it all over again for a plastic kit. The majority of the other police cars in the movie CPD & ILSP are 1977 Royal Monacos, which have a different front end and interior than a '74 Monaco. Chicago's also almost a 100% no to licensing something like that because the fallout over how CPD was made to look in the movie they refused to allow anyone to use their likeness. That's why Hill Street Blues is "Metro Police" while clearly being CPD. That has continued to the present day.  The existing MPC Pinto Wagon is an annual parked as a 1979, the movie car is a '77 Pinto wagon which would require back dating the tooling, or creating a new front mold insert - which after the 70.5 Camaro is something they'll probably not be high on undertaking.

[tim boyd]

6 hours ago, Stef said:

awwwww yisssssss

Sigh....!  TB

[Mark C.]

That’s an awesome rendering, been floating around the internet for a long time, but for the life of me I have never been able to figure out what’s going on with the front suspension.  Is it a 4WD?

Edited March 11 by Mark C.

[drksd4848]

6 hours ago, niteowl7710 said:

Nobody has a Dukes of Hazzard license, those don't exist anymore for anyone.

Dare I ask…  Why is that?

[niteowl7710]

14 hours ago, drksd4848 said:

Dare I ask…  Why is that?

Warner Brothers pulled all licensing and stopped allowing the show to be aired after Dylann Roof murdered 9 people at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, SC in 2015.  Amongst that dirt bags many issues was an obsession with the Battle Flag of the Army of Tennessee, which most people incorrectly identify as the "Confederate Flag", but wasn't actually ever used as such, nor is the Stars & Bars of the Confederacy.  But one entity that DID decide to use that flag to much adoration of the uneducated masses (who joined in decided it was the "Rebel Flag") was of course the Dukes of Hazzard which put it on the roof of the hero car.  WB decided it wanted no part of any poo tornado associated with that flag and what it symbolized to certain folks out there.  I'm not here to argue meanings or what's in people's hearts, but for the scum in question it was a symbol of the worst kind of bigotry, hate and racism.
 

For a while the DOH Charger was on the box without the flag being shown in the artwork, but the decal was still inside.  But with the licensing pulled it's why every release of the Charger has been the City Charger & Country Charger (or soda sponsored) - depending on whether it's the new SnapTite kit or the old glue kit.  I've tried to keep my answer as sanitary, fact based and devoid of politics as possible.  Keep in mind everyone, anybody deciding to add their opinions is likely to start an express trip to pain town that will get this thread locked and you an indeterminate length forum vacation.

Edited March 11 by niteowl7710

[iangilly]

There's always 3D printing if you want a full size mopar, I've had a 70 fury for a couple years now.

[mikos]

On 3/10/2025 at 11:29 PM, iangilly said:

There's always 3D printing if you want a full size mopar, I've had a 70 fury for a couple years now.

The top of the windshield/roof area looks depressed or warped.  The 3d printed models are great, but I’d rather see a plastic injected model kit at a lower cost.  I’m not a huge fan, but if they released a model kit of that car I would be in for a couple of them.  We need more “big” cars from the ‘60’-‘70’s made in 1/25th scale plastic.

[iangilly]

9 hours ago, mikos said:

The top of the windshield/roof area looks depressed or warped.  The 3d printed models are great, but I’d rather see a plastic injected model kit at a lower cost.  I’m not a huge fan, but if they released a model kit of that car I would be in for a couple of them.  We need more “big” cars from the ‘60’-‘70’s made in 1/25th scale plastic.

Has to be a market. Don't think there's a ton of buyers for full sized cars compared to midsized muscle cars

[Ragtop Man]

On 3/10/2025 at 1:22 PM, Stef said:

awwwww yisssssss

The rear axle in front - must have been one of the 1/1 Mopars. Looks like someone got carried away with AI here. 

 

[Ragtop Man]

I think that a Bluesmobile would sell very well, assuming that the licensing can be cleared.

There is a 1:18 diecast that is pretty darn good, which tells me there are some drawings sitting somewhere to at least loft the body...  I could see police, fire, taxi versions falling out pretty quickly. 

That said, after Blues Brothers, the commercial appeal to a wider audience falls off pretty quickly.  I could see some Taxi, Cop and Fire versions with good shelf appeal, but when you get into the runnathamill stockers... not so much.

The Hurst 300 would blow my hat off, but, I'm not sure how many of those you sell after the first container full of them is parceled out to distributors.  

[stavanzer]

Last Bluesmobile version would be the stock '74 Monaco, with the best hupcaps, and sold as a Snowbird Car/Grandma Grocery Getter.

The Taxi and other Light Commercial options will sell better I believe, especially a CHP Car. They were every where when I was growing up in California.

[tim boyd]

10 hours ago, iangilly said:

Has to be a market. Don't think there's a ton of buyers for full sized cars compared to midsized muscle cars

This is a really interesting comment.  It is exactly what I would have said (and probably did, many times) given my observations and knowledge of the model kit business over many years.   

But as the hobby kit market and model car hobby evolve, I am not quite so sure now. 

I would have never, ever thought we'd see a series of Hudson model kits, as just one example.  And in the 1/1 scale world, as the Moparesti get tired of seeing yet another'71 Hemi 'cuda and the like, and the once scorned Duster 340s are now commanding as much as $50k or more, people are beginning to look at the large sized Mopars with increasing interest.  The 1965-68 and 1969 to 1973 C-Bodies have a whole number of compelling offerings (I won't list them here).  But as/if 1/1 scale interest continues to grow, and as/if the model car hobby and kit business continues to expand as it has post-Covid, I'm not as sure as I once was that we'd never see a newly tooled C-body kit. 

Still unlikely, but I'm beginning to consider "never say never"  

My "dream away" choices?  #1 1970 Sport Fury GT with Factory six pack   #2 1969 or 1970 Chrysler 300 2DH and Convertible...probably from Moebius....and if those were successful, something like a 1969 Polara 440 Magnum police special, while not my personal cup of tea, would be a logical extension of the enabling tooling....- TB    

 

Edited March 14 by tim boyd