chrysler is going to file for bankruptcy!

[B_rad88]

yes it true chrysler is going to file for chapter 11 bankreuptcy!

READ THE LINK BELOW!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090430/ap_on_.../us_chrysler_16

they are going to partner ship with fiat? wow, now thats some s***!

Brandon

sorry!

Edited April 30, 2009 by KUZTOMMODELS88

[Harry P.]

That's exactly what they (and GM) should have done in the first place, before we flushed billions of dollars down the "bailout" toilet.

[CAL]

yes it true chrysler is going to file for chapter 11 bankreuptcy!

READ THE LINK BELOW!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090430/ap_on_.../us_chrysler_16

they are going to partner ship with fiat? wow, now thats some s***!

Brandon

sorry!

There is wierd stuff going on with the domestic auto industry.

Three weeks ago Fiat said that they were no long interested pursuing a partnership with Chrysler becaue of the UAW labor rates were too high for them. Next thing we know Fiat and Chrysler are going to ink a deal, a day later they Chrysler is filing for Chapter 11.

On a side note Mercedes said that they are loosing money and blame it on the 26% of Chrysler they still hold.

Fiat, already said they were not interested in putting anything into Chrysler. Fiat just wants a cheap outlet to sell their small cars.

Now for some real s***!

As part of the restructuring of GM there will be at least one Government rep on the board of directors at GM buy Aug 2009.

GM is walking down the isle with the devil, doen't any remember with the UK took over their auto industry. It was a disaster that they never completely recovered from.

GM is so screwed. Haven't they learned from their diesel abortion in the 1980s?

It's just bad bad bad news for Chrysler and GM who are in bed with the Whitehouse now, and (especailly GM) destined to have a litter of green garbage offspring, which will be the ultimate death of GM.

What are they going to do, build Volts? With a range of 40miles and doesn't pass NTSB safty, who are they going to sell them to?

Tessla is already light-years ahead of GM on that front.

Not to mention nobody talks about how distructive a batter plant is to the enviroment.

Hydrogen technology is at least 20 years away from being practical. It still takes some kind of energy to generate Hydrogen and the infrastructure for it doesn't exisit.

Those guys in Washington are in dream land.

There is a technology that is proven, reliable, cheap, and can be renewable but they don't even discuss, but it is the bridge from here to the future, whatever that maybe in reguards to the next generation of relistic automobiles.

The only one that has even a remote chance of coming out of this okay is Ford because they had the smarts enough to not get into bed with the growing evil empire.

[CAL]

That's exactly what they (and GM) should have done in the first place, before we flushed billions of dollars down the "bailout" toilet.

I agree, if they had they would already been able to upright themselves and be on the road to recovery. Now they are just on the road to further disaster.

[Guest promodmerc]

The garbage Chrysler (reliability wise) has put out the last two decade or so sure hasn't helped them. You couldn't give me one of their pieces of junk.

[CAL]

The garbage Chrysler (reliability wise) has put out the last two decade or so sure hasn't helped them. You couldn't give me one of their pieces of junk.

+1

Also agree.

I was unfortuante enough to own a Dodge once. The absolute worst POS I eveR drove. Never will even consider looking at a Chrysler product again: no way no how. I wouldn't by Chrysler if they were the last car maker on the planet.

I work for a warranty/insuracne company and they have the highest frequencey of mechanical break downs of any other make @ 57% major mechanical break downs.

Everyone says how horrible VW is, but they are in the teens within a couple percentage points of Honda and Toyota.

Chrysler is the one that is horrible, twice that of Ford. GM is better than Chrysler but tagging along not that far behind.

As far as domistics go Ford is statiscally the most reliable.

Edited April 30, 2009 by CAL

[Olle F]

The garbage Chrysler (reliability wise) has put out the last two decade or so sure hasn't helped them. You couldn't give me one of their pieces of junk.

It's not only Chrysler, and you would think that they had learned their lesson after all the junk they produced in the 70s and 80s. Domestic cars are better now, but it takes a lot to get rid of a bad reputation and they just haven't done enough about it. Putting a "Proudly made in the USA"-sticker on the vehicles may indeed make some buyers feel guilty about not buying them, but it sure doesn't make the vehicles any better. To keep on producing gas hogs it not really a good long-term strategy either. All things considered, it's not a big surprise that they have lost the market to the imports.

[gasman]

I personally don't see much in Fiats current lineup that will help Chrysler, the 500 would be a big seller. but thats it. we already have the Sedici in the this country (Suzuki SX4). The current Punto and Brovo are dated, and won't be as good as the Civic, Corolla, and the next gen Focus. The Panda is also dated. looks older compared too the Scion xB, Kia Soul, and Nissan Cube. The Qubo, Multipla, and Doblo (yes these are the names of cars Fiat makes) are all hidious, and would be laughed at if sold in this country.

now I hope Chrysler sells more Alfa Romeo products then Fiats. There cars are more fitting for Americans then Fiats are. although they are more expensive then Fiats would be they all look much better, The Mito would make a great entry level car. replace the crappy Sebring/Avenger with the 159, The Brera would fit in nicely too compete with the Focus 2dr, Cobalt 2dr, Civic 2dr, and Scion tC

[CAL]

I personally don't see much in Fiats current lineup that will help Chrysler, the 500 would be a big seller. but thats it. we already have the Sedici in the this country (Suzuki SX4). The current Punto and Brovo are dated, and won't be as good as the Civic, Corolla, and the next gen Focus. The Panda is also dated. looks older compared too the Scion xB, Kia Soul, and Nissan Cube. The Qubo, Multipla, and Doblo (yes these are the names of cars Fiat makes) are all hidious, and would be laughed at if sold in this country.

now I hope Chrysler sells more Alfa Romeo products then Fiats. There cars are more fitting for Americans then Fiats are. although they are more expensive then Fiats would be they all look much better, The Mito would make a great entry level car. replace the crappy Sebring/Avenger with the 159, The Brera would fit in nicely too compete with the Focus 2dr, Cobalt 2dr, Civic 2dr, and Scion tC

If they did the diesels. One of the big 3 will figure out that the moderen diesel isn't all that bad. I'd drive one.

Um lets seem... who wont LeMans for the last several years. What was their nearest competitor?

Chrysler needs them all they have no small cars.

They need to start somewhere because they are nowhere. Chrysler really seems to be lost in the woods.

[Harry P.]

What really aggravates me is the fact that the government first pumped billions of our money into a failing company in order to "save" it (yeah, right!)... and now they go bankrupt anyway! (with GM to follow shortly, I'd guess).

Instead of persuading GM and Chrysler to do the smart and prudent thing and file bankruptcy right off the bat, then restructure and come out leaner and more efficient, the geniuses in Washington first threw billions of our dollars at the failing companies in some sort of misguided attempt at "rescuing" them, then let them go into bankruptcy anyway!!!

Our tax dollars at work.

[CAL]

What really aggravates me is the fact that the government first pumped billions of our money into a failing company in order to "save" it (yeah, right!)... and now they go bankrupt anyway! (with GM to follow shortly, I'd guess).

Instead of persuading GM and Chrysler to do the smart and prudent thing and file bankruptcy right off the bat, then restructure and come out leaner and more efficient, the geniuses in Washington first threw billions of our dollars at the failing companies in some sort of misguided attempt at "rescuing" them, then let them go into bankruptcy anyway!!!

Our tax dollars at work.

Yeah, well that is evident.

Chrysler is completely lost

GM is terrible misguided

And who couldn't see this coming? Everyone with half a brain figured it out six months ago.

[gasman]

Ford through all of this is looking excellent. They won't need any government assitence. they have there best product lineup ever. They have great product still coming, The 2011 Fiesta, and all new Focus (2011 too I believe), There working on a new Explorer. spy shots of the 2011-2012 F350 are on the web. They posted a smaller loss then expected. and they still say they'll be back into the Green by 2011.

[CAL]

Ford through all of this is looking excellent. They won't need any government assitence. they have there best product lineup ever. They have great product still coming, The 2011 Fiesta, and all new Focus (2011 too I believe), There working on a new Explorer. spy shots of the 2011-2012 F350 are on the web. They posted a smaller loss then expected. and they still say they'll be back into the Green by 2011.

Yup Ford will be up on top of their game again in a few years while GM and Chrysler are floundering around with White House.

[Guest promodmerc]

Ford through all of this is looking excellent. They won't need any government assitence. they have there best product lineup ever. They have great product still coming, The 2011 Fiesta, and all new Focus (2011 too I believe), There working on a new Explorer. spy shots of the 2011-2012 F350 are on the web. They posted a smaller loss then expected. and they still say they'll be back into the Green by 2011.

Ford went & screwed up with the fourth generation of Explorers. They will be unibodied cross over hunks of junk.

Us true Explorer & Moutaineer owners are pretty upset with Ford over this. The soccer moms will love them I'm sure.

[jbwelda]

chrysler has been circling the drain for years, decades really, and they have pretty much refused to confront the modern world with anything more than half hearted attempts so it shouldnt be some big surprise. "retro" (read: we cant come up with any good new designs so lets do some gravedigging) muscle specialty cars are a very small market and dont keep anyone afloat for long; its everyman transportation for cheap that runs for cheap that makes or breaks a mass market manufacturer.

as for GM yeah youre right getting in bed with the govt, what the h*ll are they thinking? heres what theyre thinking: its this or end of the road. as a taxpayer i have a problem with it from the other side: i dont want my money furthering a losing enterprise. and as for ford, i think they are just not going public with their poor balance sheet yet, but the day will come, and probably soon. been to a ford dealership lately? inventory for miles.

a big part of the problem of course is public confidence in the economy. without that no one wants to risk putting out the coin for a new car. and thats probably independent of country of origin (though arent most "japanese" cars manufactured here in the usa these days? at least the ones that are sold here?). last i was at a toyota dealer they seemed pretty heavy on inventory too.

and dont laugh at fiat (fix it again tony) too much. as long as they dont go back into partnership with cuba and make lada's there for import here, their products are pretty good despite a spotty rep in some parts of the world (eg: where they never imported their cool cars...the usa specifically).

[58 Impala]

I currently own a 97 Crown Vic ( I love big cars) and have owned a 92 Grand Marquis. My son and I are in the process of modifying his 04 V6 mustang, and my brother owns an 07 GT. They have been and are reliable cars. I used to drive Chevys (65 Impala,69 Chevelle, 78,79 Camaros) but I like the new Ford products, they seem to be better quality than GM. I have to give Ford a big thumbs up for not taking any government money.

If I were in the market for a new car right now, I would seriously consider A Ford product. Washington can't take care of themselves, they are definitely going to screw up GM and Chrysler. You can kiss any performance cars goodbye (Challenger,Charger,Camaro,etc.) They will be trying to shove green junk down our throats.

[935k3]

It's sad to see it come to this but they are self inflicted for the most part. One thing I read the other day that is sort of funny in all this though was that in this bad economy guess who was the most profitable car company in the first quarter. It was Ferrari, a company that has always built highly desirable cars.

[Lownslow]

It's sad to see it come to this but they are self inflicted for the most part. One thing I read the other day that is sort of funny in all this though was that in this bad economy guess who was the most profitable car company in the first quarter. It was Ferrari, a company that has always built highly desirable cars.

ferrari is very low production so 100 cars can bring numbers up

[B_rad88]

well, this sucks those this mean no more challenger? no more viper? no more MOPAR?

with gm in the hole, chysler is broke and now poor, toyota is also struggling to stay alive too, and whats next is it back to bicycles?

and every american car from the 70's and 80's sucked!

[CAL]

ferrari is very low production so 100 cars can bring numbers up

No it's more than that. 2500 range across there entire line up.

Nevertheless, so it would seem that Ferrari/Fiat is the only profitable car company at the moment and posted 800m Euro net profits the last couple of quarters.

[CAL]

No it's more than that. 2500 range across there entire line up.

Nevertheless, so it would seem that Ferrari/Fiat is the only profitable car company at the moment and posted 800m Euro net profits the last couple of quarters.

It is usually Porsche who is at the top of most net profitablity.

[Rob Hall]

I just hope Chrysler survives and thrives once again. I've been very happy w/ my '00 Grand Cherokee, and based on the pics I've seen from the New York Auto Show, I think I'll really like the '11 Grand Cherokee (4th gen).

[Joe Handley]

I just hope Chrysler survives and thrives once again. I've been very happy w/ my '00 Grand Cherokee, and based on the pics I've seen from the New York Auto Show, I think I'll really like the '11 Grand Cherokee (4th gen).

You know I've owned 80's and 90's Chrysler products and have good luck with them, and when problems have arose, it's been because they've been 100k+ mile cars in a rustbelt climate that have been run hard. My current Cherokee currently has 127k on it and have had few quality problems with it, but nothing bad, my sister regularly ran her's low on oil, overheated it so bad that it stalled and the dang thing still ran after the waterpump and serpntine belt were replaced ans she still had over 200k on it when she bought her '06 Charger. Our father ran 2 Cherokee's over 200k as Maintenence of Way management (track repair) at a local railroad and those trucks were run hard on and off road and could do more in 2wd wiht high mileage than most anything else the road and his co-workers owned, especially those darn deathtrap TTB front/Solid Axle rear Explorers. Then I start reading about how Toyota has to buy back their Tacoma's and early Tundra's because the frames are rotting away and breaking in half, their appliance car engines that sludge up and throw parts out of the block within 50k, the first year FJ Cruisers that were having the front sheetmetal breaking if they were run off road in conditions that wouldn't give a high mileage unibody Jeep problems and I really have to wonder if Toyota is worth the extra money when if they have problems, it's big problems, not relatively minor stuff, but that's just me.

[James Flowers]

I love it every time these turn in to a bashing of the the car brands. Lets face it? Folks bought in to everything they made for years. practicality and reliability went out the window and no one cared. It is just sad that the car companies lost sight of what was sound business practices. The foreign car companies reliability has went down also. I still here buy one of theirs its better than ours. Lets face it a lot of folks won,t even give an domestic car a chance anymore.