Anyone here tried gloss black primer?

[Monty]

Curious because Stynylrez and Kaleido Paints ( and possibly others) offer it.  
 

If you’ve used it, how did it compare to regular primers?

 

[NOBLNG]

I have not tried it, but I can’t see where a gloss finish on a primer would be beneficial?

[OldNYJim]

The gloss primer is designed for overlaying metallics - silvers and metal tones and stuff like that that NEED a black base to give the best effect.  

For those applications, it’s super useful - I’ll use it when I know a part is going to end up some kind of metal shade, and I don’t feel like doing regular primer, THEN gloss black, then a metal shade.

For most other applications though, regular primer will give better paint adhesion and would probably be a better choice 

[peteski]

So metallic paints will "magically" adhere  as well to a glossy primer as non-metallic paints to flat/satin finish primer?  Interesting  . . .

[Michael jones]

Sometimes the part you are wanting to paint is supposed to be shiny black, so a shiny black primer would be perfect. I often use Mr hobby black primer for semi gloss/ flat paint finishes - same sort of idea. I also have used Tamiya white primer for the main body colour. Works great.

[mcs1056]

I have the same question, Peteski.

Whether the first, black coat is considered primer or paint, it sure is glossy. Might be the nicest black (without polishing) I've seen in my short time back in modeling. It sure does work with that chrome. 

[Monty]

14 hours ago, Michael jones said:

Sometimes the part you are wanting to paint is supposed to be shiny black, so a shiny black primer would be perfect. I often use Mr hobby black primer for semi gloss/ flat paint finishes - same sort of idea. I also have used Tamiya white primer for the main body colour. Works great.

^^^One of the reasons I asked. I’ve seen several Barbatos Rex videos where he uses Japanese hobby paints that require a gloss black base for optimal use.  The results are generally spectacular, and as has been mentioned, a gloss black primer saves a step in the process.

Edited Friday at 08:11 PM by Monty

[DJMar]

20 minutes ago, Monty said:

^^^One of the reasons I asked. I’ve seen several Barbarossa Rex videos where he uses Japanese hobby paints that require a black base for optimal use.  The results are generally spectacular, and as has been mentioned, a gloss black primer saves a step in the process.

This. Certain paints are formulated to be applied over a glossy black base coat to give the desired results. High shine Alclad2 paints, as well as SMS Hyperchrome, are two examples of metallic coatings that require a shiny black base to give maximum reflectivity.

Gloss black primer is made for these types of finishes.

[peteski]

I thought this thread was about using glossy black primer under standard metallic paints used for painting car bodies. That made no sense to me.

But when this conversation continued, it appears that the gloss black primer is for use with those special coatings which are designed to replicate look of bare polished metal (chrome, aluminum, stainless steel). That makes perfect sense now because in order for a metallic surface to look polished or reflective it needs to be as smooth as glass.  This has been the case since the first such coatings appeared in the market (like Alclad II Chrome). No no glossy surface - no chrome-look. As for calling those paints a "primer" I guess that it is something Stynylrez and Kaleido might have chosen to describe an ordinary gloss black paint they sell.  It is basically an undercoat for high-shine metallic finishes, not specifically a primer which improves adhesion to the painted surface.  Or are those real primers which do improve adhesion?  I guess in the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter.  Alclad II also has a "primers" section on their website, but calls those paints just "Gloss Black Base". https://alclad2.com/finishes/primers-misc/