EV Horror story

[bobthehobbyguy]

Saw this on YouTube.

 

[Ace-Garageguy]

Stuff like this is not at all unusual.

EVs are failing fast and furious globally, but we're not supposed to notice.

Plus there are a host of other problems that only this guy and a few others who live in reality ever mention.

As I've said for decades, EVs have a place in a rational vehicle mix...but they're not the be-all end-all transportation solution the proponents would have us believe, and frankly, the tech is no more ready for full-scale deployment than most commercial AI products intended for mission-critical applications.

But humans tend to jump the gun whenever new-oh-so-mo-better comes along.

[bobss396]

People believe what the idiot box in their living room tells them to do.

Save the world, buy an EV. Although some come with rebates and so on, they are no bargain.

The news and manufacturers gloss over what it really takes to make an EV battery.

Virtually tons of raw ore is mined to make that 500-700 lb battery. Then it has to be processed and refined.

[Ace-Garageguy]

Speaking of horror stories...

EDIT: A client wanted me to do a Tesla powertrain swap into a perfectly good Jag XK120.

Nope. If it was a gutted shell, I'd consider it. Better yet, one of the old fiberglass kit cars that can be had for around $10-15,000 (a real one, even a rat, is worth at least $30k, and this was a decent driver). But ya know, my thought was that the kind of guy who has zero respect for what a 120 is is probably the kind of guy who'd sue me after he found out the Tesla-swapped car was worth nothing.

 

Edited 13 hours ago by Ace-Garageguy

[stavanzer]

MGuy! I love Him!

He is spot on about the EV's. 15 years from now, there won't by any of them on the roads.

Which, in a way is very sad. They Do have a place in the transport mix, and used in the proper ways, can be a good fit.

But, the are still too fragile, too costly, and and undeveloped to work for the everyday user.

(yes, I know we have a couple EV drivers on the board. All is going well for you... So Far. One spilled Bottle of water, one short circuit, and the "Going Well" bit vanishes in an instant. You are gambling with every mile you drive)  

A robust, simple, EV has an excellent, Real World Use Case as a Small City Commuter Car, or Delivery Van. But We are not there yet.

[Volzfan59]

I won’t have an EV, screw that. We’ll stick with our hemi powered, 6 speed manual Challenger and Toyota Tacoma.

Edited 11 hours ago by Volzfan59

[peteski]

11 hours ago, stavanzer said:

(yes, I know we have a couple EV drivers on the board. All is going well for you... So Far. One spilled Bottle of water, one short circuit, and the "Going Well" bit vanishes in an instant. You are gambling with every mile you drive)

Even every new internal-combustion-powered vehicle is so full of electronics that similar thing can happen in one of the "dino fuel" cars.

11 hours ago, stavanzer said:

A robust, simple, EV has an excellent, Real World Use Case as a Small City Commuter Car, or Delivery Van. But We are not there yet.

Exactly, but without trying and trying again, we will never get "there". If people didn't try advancing, we would still be riding horses.  You do have a point about need for simpler vehicles. We need to get rid of the bloat of electronics in our contemporary vehicles, but somehow I don't see that happening either.

[Ace-Garageguy]

45 minutes ago, peteski said:

...We need to get rid of the bloat of electronics in our contemporary vehicles, but somehow I don't see that happening either.

"Butt I gots ta have muh technology !!!!!!!!"

[iamsuperdan]

EV or ICE, all new cars are dangerous, can catch fire, and have more tech than anyone needs or knows what to do with...tech that will fail at some point. I don't care what brand you're loyal to, it ALL glitches or fails.

 

I'm 100% for EV swapping classics if it means keeping them on the road instead of scrapping them. The 911 posted above was a shell with no drivetrain. Of course, that owner figured an EV swap was easy and obviously made a few errors. Done right, by a reputable company, and I'd be all in because it's better than crushing them.

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[stavanzer]

1 hour ago, peteski said:

Exactly, but without trying and trying again, we will never get "there"

I'll  call You on that.

We know exactly what to do, and how to do it. We have over 100 years of automotive engineering experience to draw from on how to design a rugged, useful, inexpensive EV.

But, we (collectively) will not do it. Why? Over the last 50 Years, we have taught the car buying public to expect the Latest, Greatest , most technologically advanced Cars and Trucks ever. A simple, robust commuter car, has been teased by Many Companies both Mainstream and Startup. None have been successful. There is no money to be made on these cars.

[stavanzer]

3 minutes ago, iamsuperdan said:

EV or ICE, all new cars are dangerous, can catch fire, and have more tech than anyone needs or knows what to do with...tech that will fail at some point. I don't care what brand you're loyal to, it ALL glitches or fails.

 

I'm 100% for EV swapping classics if it means keeping them on the road instead of scrapping them. The 911 posted above was a shell with no drivetrain. Of course, that owner figured an EV swap was easy and obviously made a few errors. Done right, by a reputable company, and I'd be all in because it's better than crushing them.

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Electric Classic Cars | The World's Largest Converter of Classic Cars

 

 

Nope!

Double Nope!

Want an EV. Buy One. Live with it!

But, keep your hands off original Gas Powered Cars.

What's that tired old Automotive Collector saying? "It's only Original Once".

Those "reputable" Companies? Grifters, catering to a Tiny percentage of an already Niche Market.I've seen some of their work. It's lousy. (as is most 'work' done these days,by newer techs- See Ace and his experiences) So, Don't give them more credit than they deserve. There will not more more than two or three of those "Converted Cars' on the road  in 10 years, due to the lousy quality of both the work, and the cheaply made components.

I want EVs to work.

Nothing we have now works.