MARAUDER Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 Hi all, I'm looking to buy an airbrush and a compressor. But I have never been out shopping for one before. I know I want a dual action unit, and one that is adjustable in air and paint settings. So my fellow modellers, please give me information to help me choose, and any recommendations on what you are using, and if you would recommend me getting the same, and where can I order one. Thank you so very much guys. Robert. p.s. please check out my truck in the 'on the workbench' section, thanks. Robert...
Janne Herajärvi Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 If you want invest for good one take Iwata. I have Iwata Revolution CR witch is good workhorse. If you want make some custom paintjobs then some other model like Iwata High Performance Plus HP-A Plus? There is also some airbrush kits from Iwata with compressor.
Gregg Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 I hate to promote something as if I'm sounding like I'm biased, but I love the new GREX systems. They have great customer service, the airbrushes have worked flawlessly for me, and they are cool Kawasaki Green! GREX Kit
Guest Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 I have a Badger Crescendo 175 that I have been using almost weekly since 1996. The only part I had to replace was the tip, and that was recently, maybe 2 months ago. Great airbrush.
Lownslow Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 x2 on the 175, badger is great i dont think their warranty can be matched i sent 2 airbrushes to them for checks and got new needles and tips, for free.
diymirage Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 i used to have a badger 150 dual action then i got out of the hobby for a while and got rid of it now i have a paasch single action and to be honoust, i dont miss the dual action this paasche i have has a needle and tip combo that is less then an inch long and it is sooooooooomuch easyer to clean i think with my skill level this is all i need as for aircompressors, dont go to small or it will constantly be turning on and that annoying and make sure you invest the extra 12 dollars to install a water trap, you dont want to get moisture in the air when your spraying enamels
Dr. Cranky Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 You can't go wrong with IWATA ECLIPSE HP-C. It's the best airbrush and fairly economical. Later as you get used to it, you'll end up with the best airbrush in the world, the Iwata Micron.
MrObsessive Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 X3 on the Badger Crescendo! I've had mine since 1994 and the only things I've had to replace are the needle bushings. Not hard to replace despite what Badger tells you BTW. One tip I've learned over the years is to bring the needle forward out of the body to clean, and then reinsert through the backside of the body to get it together. This saves on wear and tear of the bushing.
Martsmodels Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 Hi - I'm relatively new to airbrushing and started about 2 years ago with a single action Badger 150 which I found was either on or off and I couldn't get on with it at all. For a while I thought there must be something wrong with me then I bought myself a Badger 360 dual action which solved all the problems - very easy to use and has the advantage of beibg able to use either the gravity feed cup or a bottle by swivelling the head around. Thoroughly recommended and not too expensive either. Good luck - Martin Here's a good review http://www.modelersguild.com/e-magazine/reviews/tools/168-badger-360-dual-action-airbrush
Rider Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 (edited) You can't go wrong with IWATA ECLIPSE HP-C. It's the best airbrush and fairly economical. Later as you get used to it, you'll end up with the best airbrush in the world, the Iwata Micron. I second the Iwata rout, best dam air brush products, period. Edited February 10, 2010 by Plastic Freak
crazyjim Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 I recently started using a Badger 200 single action. A friend let me borrow his dual action to try it out. I'll stick with the single action. I'm using a Cambell Hausfeld air compressor with a 3 gallon tank that I fitted with a moisture trap.
GrandpaMcGurk Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 (edited) In my opinion, Iwata makes and excellent product, however I use a Paasche VL. I've done everything from automotive showroom wall murals to model cars. I even use it for my illustrations. It's priced at around 100 bucks and comes with several needles and tips. Personally I like the pick-up under the brush rather than the gravity systems as they are easier for me to handle. Paint jars come in a variety of sizes and left over custom mix colors can be capped and set aside for those times when you need to touch up a boo boo. I've had it for around 10 years and other than regular cleaning and replacing a worn needle it has been maintenance free. My compressor is a large automotive type and not mobile so I have a couple of portable tanks (w/pressure regulators) that I fill and use when I'm not able to hook to the a compressor. I think when you get right down to it, any quality airbrush will give you great performance. The important thing is that it feels right and is comfortable for you to use. Edited February 15, 2010 by GrandpaMcGurk
midwest 1953 Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 (edited) i have a Badger 200 (single action) and a Badger 150 ( double action) . with that I have a Sears 4 gallon pancake compressor, and a moisture trap with a regulator.. I prefer the single action for painting large areas, because once you get the paint flow set, all you need to to do is push down the button... My single action 200 has the medium head, and needle, the double action has the fine head for detail stuff.. If you purchase a water trap with a regulator, and 25 feet of hose, you can put your compressor in a closet, or across the room, mount your watertrap/reg. on your paint boothe and adjust your pressure at the regulator.. Cuts down the noise, and makes things more enjoyable... Jim A. Edited February 10, 2010 by midwest 1953
CAL Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 I have several Badgers and I love them, used them for a long time, and still do, but I also have a Iwata. The Iwata is just a better brush, especially for doing model car bodies.
whale392 Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 I have two Paasche VL guns, and like them both. One I have set-up for a clear only gun, and the other is my multi-purpose pen. Now, if I only built something once in a while I could show you how well they work (laziness and work schedules are a pain!).
crazyjim Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 Any thoughts about an Iwata Revolution SAR airbrush? It's a single action, the dual action is the BCR, I think. Appreciate any comments.
RyanSilva Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 Badger Renegade series! It's a 100 dollar brush that can do line work that rivals a 400 dollar Micron. I use the gravity fed velocity, and the detail work is amazing. Grex is great too.
simonr Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 (edited) I have myself also a Badger Crescendo 175 since 1998 with a great experience from it, specially the lifetime warranty service that is a mayor feauture. I bought the set that comes with the three needles, tips, and cups. This is a great airbrush for those who wants an all around-just one airbrush....but....the last summer I send to Hong Kong for a Gunze Sangyo Procon Boy PS-270. I have to tell that this one is another league, the touch and flow of this one has no rival, it even can do 0.2 mm lines! You guys can see a great review of this one here: http://www.kitsunesuki.com/2007/05/06/gunze-procon-boy-fwa-platinum-02-part-1/comment-page-1/ Simón P. Rivera Torres Edited February 13, 2010 by simonr
Tommy Kortman Posted February 11, 2010 Posted February 11, 2010 Badger Renegade series! It's a 100 dollar brush that can do line work that rivals a 400 dollar Micron. I use the gravity fed velocity, and the detail work is amazing. Grex is great too. I will second that. My normal brush was a badger 150 and a sotar 20/20 (for fine work), but after i had the oppertunity to work with the renegade series, I'm hooked.
Smart-Resins Posted February 11, 2010 Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) I too own and use a Paasche VLS 1208 dual action. It is absolutly terrific in my mind! 30lbs pressure and I love it! You can find those at Hobby Lobby. Wait until you get a 40 or 50% off coupon and run! You can get it for under $50 then! Jody Edited February 11, 2010 by Smart-Resins
Modelmartin Posted February 11, 2010 Posted February 11, 2010 I vote for the Paasche H series, It's a real workhorse and you can use differnt tips in it from very fine work to spraying down real wet paintjobs. I have been using it since 1980 and have shot many gallons of paint through it over the years. I replace the tips periodically but then I shoot a lot of paint!! I really like the thing. I would warn you away from the dual action unless you are going to do some serious graphics or camouflage patterns.
LoneWolf15 Posted February 11, 2010 Posted February 11, 2010 Gotta go with Andy on this one ! Paache H series , using the # 5 head and needle will cover you from A to Z . Dual actions are great , I love them ! However , they are overkill unless you plan on doing weathering, murals , or fine detail painting. The Paache single action is easy to use , clean , and a breeze to maintain , also very cost effective !
Longbow Posted February 12, 2010 Posted February 12, 2010 I to vote for the Paasche H .Got mine for Christmas & this is my second paint job which I did today.
crazyjim Posted February 12, 2010 Posted February 12, 2010 Do Badger airbrushes use a different hose/connections than a Paasche H series? I've been trying to find quick disconnect fittings for my Badger 200 and nobody has them that will fit a badger. What gives? I've been thinking of getting a Paasche H with the 3 tips but keeping my baby compressor for cleaning. But if I had a Badger and Paasche I might need 2 different hoses - maybe a splitter of some sort could work with 2 hoses.
MARAUDER Posted February 15, 2010 Author Posted February 15, 2010 WOW, everyone here is so helpful, and really knows their stuff too, i'm glad i joined this site, and have already made a few good friends here, this gives me more information to think about while shopping for an airbrush, i'm not too worried about the cost as i'll be having it for a long long time, and i mite even buy a single and a dual action and work with both of them, i didn't even think about having a water trap, but what a great idea to keep it all clean, and since i built a super clean, and bright spray booth with ventilation and pre and aft filters, i want to keep everything in my favour for when i do my spraying, anyhow, thank you soooo much everyone, rob
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