Guest Sickfish Posted March 16, 2010 Posted March 16, 2010 Hi guys! While awaiting my extra Superbee kits i have been busy prepping one of the bodies & motor for the Phantom 'Bee but have found a problem with the intake manifold for the 440-6 pack. It's about 3-4mm short of the block!! Although i've previously built this kit in it's original form, with the Hemi, i've not used/built the kit supplied 440-6, so wasn't aware of this problem . Although it's easy enough to fix with some styrene, i'd like to know if anyone know's if there's a better alternative 440-6 on the market?? I have most Mopar kits, many not opened. I'm also aware of the '69 'Bee 440-6, but that's 1/24 scale & this 'Bee is 1/25. Cheers & thanks for any suggestions, Cliffo!
LVZ2881 Posted March 16, 2010 Posted March 16, 2010 have you considered making a valley pan to cover the gap?? that would be correct for a 1:1 RB engine...
Casey Posted March 16, 2010 Posted March 16, 2010 have you considered making a valley pan to cover the gap?? that would be correct for a 1:1 RB engine... I can't tell which kit the pictured engine is from, so I'm assuming the AMT '70 Dodge Coronet Super Bee kit? The 440 in the Revell '68 & '69 Charger kits is a nice engine with a separate valley pan, so I can test fit the AMT '70 SB's Six Pack intake on the Revell engine and report back with a pic, too, if that'll help. I can't think of any other 1/25th scale Six Pack intake manifolds besides the one in the AMT '70 SB kit.
dwc43 Posted March 16, 2010 Posted March 16, 2010 That's the 70 Bee engine. I've got several of those kits that I used chassis and parts to put in other cars. Everyone of those engines are like that. IF you get the intake to sit in the middle of the engine correctly there is very little gap on each end. I filled it with a little CA glue and painted it and you can't tell the diff.
Railfreak78 Posted March 16, 2010 Posted March 16, 2010 Mine had it too. Not as bad as yours. I tried to hide mine with other detail to take away from it. I didn't think of adding plastic at the time. here is mine and some real inspiration for you.
whale392 Posted March 16, 2010 Posted March 16, 2010 Cliff, I had no such problems with my '70 Bee engine. It looks like you have the intake sitting too far forward on the block (observations of a sleep-deprived lunatic). But I digress, as mentioned above, grab the Charger engine with the seperate valley pan and swap the intake over to it. It might not be correct, but it will help hide the 'skylight in the lifter valley' you have going on now!
Deckerz Posted March 16, 2010 Posted March 16, 2010 If this kit has the supercharger with it i will be interested in the supercharger and its parts and with intake for it if your not using it. Theres no difference as far as i can tell between 1/24 and 1/25 engines...the ones from the revell 69 bee kit is a very nice engine, minimal cutting sometimes none required, easy to assemble and all the parts sit flush with each other.
Guest Sickfish Posted March 16, 2010 Posted March 16, 2010 (edited) OK guys thanks for all your help & info. I actually have several spare 440 blocks from the Revell '69 Charger kit & may use just the block & headers, as the manifold isn't correct for the 440-6 & i so want the Phantom 'Bee to appear as stock as possible, even though the Ramcharger cover will hide pretty much any detail to the carbs anyway!! I'll probably extend the 'Bees manifold with styrene . Brad i now have 3 of these kits & all 3 have the same short manifold, so i'm of the opinion it's a F***-up by AMT/RC2.. Guys i had more written here but for some odd reason when i originally posted the reply half of it went AWOL??? Anyway i'll be re-starting a new thread with the starting of the Dual 70 'Bees...stay tuned... Edited March 16, 2010 by Sickfish
whale392 Posted March 16, 2010 Posted March 16, 2010 Now you have me curious Cliff...............great, now I will have to go into the 'Land of the Stalled Projects' to see if both of mine have this problem. I don't remember them having it, but I am dumb and overwhelmed......God knows what I really see!
Casey Posted March 17, 2010 Posted March 17, 2010 The Edelbrock Six Pack manifold (which, IIRC, is correct for '69, but I thought Chrysler produced it's own intake manifold for 1970, rather than again use and Edlebrock part) has an integrally molded valley pan, whereas the Revell '68/'69 Charger has a separate valley pan and single 4-bbl intake manifold. I would just add a thin strip of plastic to one end, and file it down until it fits the way you like it to.
dwc43 Posted March 17, 2010 Posted March 17, 2010 The Edelbrock Six Pack manifold (which, IIRC, is correct for '69, but I thought Chrysler produced it's own intake manifold for 1970, rather than again use and Edlebrock part) has an integrally molded valley pan, whereas the Revell '68/'69 Charger has a separate valley pan and single 4-bbl intake manifold. I would just add a thin strip of plastic to one end, and file it down until it fits the way you like it to. They went to cast instead of aluminum but they are an exact copy and still have the ede name on them. 440 six pack 340 six pack
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