whale392 Posted September 26, 2011 Author Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) Jason is correct, the Pace Car is a sunroof car (Monogram issue). Now you are going to make me have to dig out all of my chassis plates to look for the differences! The 87-93 GT Convertible tails are taller; now that you say that, I do remember having fit issues with them back/into the Cobra body. You know, I am having a thought here: I will have to make some time and get Photobucket to work well with me, but why don't we do a comparison/informative thread on the various different Monogram/Revell kits offered in 1/24th scale? I have the 1979 Pace Car, the 1979 Cobra, the 83-84 GLX Convertible, the original issue 1991 and 1992 GT Convertible, the 'New Monkeys' 1987 GT Convertible, the 2 different issues of the GT Convertible in their 'Lowrider' series, the original issue 85 SVO and the re-issue, an original issue 93 Cobra and the reissue, plus the original and 'Basic Builder' of the 87 Thunderbird TurboCoupe (I bring this kit up as a source for a correct 2.3T and T5 transmission). We could do the same for the Various MPC/AMT FOX offerings. I was watching the very same kit Eric, but being on a road trip for work kept me from being there in time to bid on it! Whenever I can get any of the 1/24th (early) kits, I do! I think you do as much (or actually more) work on these kits as I do, Jason! I don't think I have one stock build going of ANY of the FOX kits! Edited September 26, 2011 by whale392
Olskoolrodder Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 1) Now you are going to make me have to dig out all of my chassis plates to look for the differences! 2) You know, I am having a thought here: I will have to make some time and get Photobucket to work well with me, but why don't we do a comparison/informative thread on the various different Monogram/Revell kits offered in 1/24th scale? I have the 1979 Pace Car, the 1979 Cobra, the 83-84 GLX Convertible, the original issue 1991 and 1992 GT Convertible, the 'New Monkeys' 1987 GT Convertible, the 2 different issues of the GT Convertible in their 'Lowrider' series, the original issue 85 SVO and the re-issue, an original issue 93 Cobra and the reissue, plus the original and 'Basic Builder' of the 87 Thunderbird TurboCoupe (I bring this kit up as a source for a correct 2.3T and T5 transmission). We could do the same for the Various MPC/AMT FOX offerings. 3) I was watching the very same kit Eric, but being on a road trip for work kept me from being there in time to bid on it! Whenever I can get any of the 1/24th (early) kits, I do! 1) LMBO,sorry 2) That sounds like a bit of work,but like an AWESOME idea...even for a print article 3) That's probably the one I was watching (until the last second),it finally sold for $7.49 + shipping
Abell82 Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 Well, I need something to keep me occupied (LOL!) Some of the plates are more "square" then others. From what I can tell, when they began producing the 1993 Cobra, they modified the chassis plate to a more rounded one, and have used it ever since. The Cobra chassis plate is usable in the older cars but not as "snug" of a fit, it also has the extra locating pins for the dual exhaust.
whale392 Posted September 26, 2011 Author Posted September 26, 2011 Agreed Jason, I just got home from work and dug out some of my chassis plates. The thing that got me thinking of them as all the same is the front and rear suspensions are all alike, for every issue. And you and I KNOW the SVO got a special K-Member/A-arm configuration, unlike anything kitted in all of the 1/24th kits.
Abell82 Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) Yes, the SVO did get special control arms, but IF I remember correctly, I think that the Tamiya Cobra R front suspension looks close in scale? Much closer then the Revllogram, Again if I remember correctly. (as far as the lower arms go.) Edited September 26, 2011 by Abell82
Olskoolrodder Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) Well,I for one could use that info,and (soon as I get another printer,or I could scoot to the library) would print it out,use a 3 hole-hole puncher and pop it in a binder for a quick referance I used to do that with tutorials/info I found helpful,but (here it comes again,LOL) they all burned up,LOL! I have two busted up glue bombs (that look to me about too far gone and not enough there,they were "thrown in the box cause they knew I liked Mustangs" on some trades a while back*),one an original release SVO one a '91-ish ragtop GT,both 1:24...you're right,identical (save for the SVO's single exhaust). I also have 2 1:25 scalers (in as bad/worse shape),a Pace'r and a non (Pace Car)...besides just the scale diff's they're a bit different,so I'm assuming they're the MPC versions (the Pace'r has the 2.3L/4 spd and T Tops-I also have most of a '99 Cobra glue bomb FWIW-*all these thrown in the same box). I kept em mainly incase I ever did a junk yard diorama or in case I could use any parts. They're most likely beyond my capabilities of restoring,and missing lots,but neat to have,LOL! None of em have enogh suspension parts to build,and no wheels what-so-ever,LOL! Edited September 26, 2011 by Olskoolrodder
whale392 Posted September 26, 2011 Author Posted September 26, 2011 The Tamiya Cobra R got the regular SN95 set-up, which is closer in scale but not shape to the SVO. The SVO had the narrowest k-member (between the a-arm pick-up points, specific to the SVO) and 1982-83 Lincoln TownCar a-arms (they were an inch longer than FOX arms with a larger ball joint shaft). the SN95s and Thunderbird Turbocoupe arms are 3/4" longer than FOX arms, with the SN having a taller ball joint. The TownCar arms actually looked like square-tube steel arms versus the regular stamped-steel units that all other FOXes got. Stephen, with some fitting, the 99 Cobra parts can go back under the 1/25th MPC offerings you have. I have a 'SnakeBite' 82 Mustang kit right now with the front and rear suspension from the 99 Cobra adapted back into it, along with the engine/trans. It wasn't easy, but it will work and yield a far better looking chassis.
Olskoolrodder Posted September 27, 2011 Posted September 27, 2011 Good to know! I'll dig it out of the shed tomorrow and see exactly how much I have. I'm thinking chassis with no suspension bits though (and no wheels came with any of em).
whale392 Posted September 27, 2011 Author Posted September 27, 2011 Worth a look Stephen. Even if you can't use much or it doesn't have much, you will at least know what you do have. Wheels/tires is an easy malady to fix. Stock or aftermarket, options are out there.
Olskoolrodder Posted September 27, 2011 Posted September 27, 2011 The chassis is under the car...but that's all that's there,LOL,no suspension at all. And yeah,I know wheels are only a biggie if you're doing a rep-stock and can't find a set. I'm sure that once I actually get to go to the old house with a full 1/2 day (and some light,LOL),I'll find buttloads of potential wheel swaps in boxes that have a few parts left that didn't melt. I need to hurry and get to the bench and get that pair of SN95's done (or close to it) so's I can get on a Fox...as small as my bench is (despite having a good design for work space and storage),I'll only ever try and have 2-3 projects ongoing at a time (which I sorta have going now...you know,if I was actually getting to the bench and working on em,LOL). The PLAN for tomorrow is stay home,and get some building done. That's the plan anyways . I'd like to start a series every other build or so of 1:1's I've owned in the past...the first 6-8 have been kitted if I can find em,LOL,and there was a pair of Turbo Coupe T-Birds owned back to back ('88 then '87) I could build too....ah,plans
whale392 Posted September 28, 2011 Author Posted September 28, 2011 No need to hurry. Remember, both have no timeline!
Olskoolrodder Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 No,LOL,the "need to hurry" is due to anxiousness
4bangen Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) figured I'd chime in with one of my fox's This one is by far the most radical builds I've done. and also one of my longer running projects. I'm probably going to pull it apart and change a few things. it sports a pair of 460ci ford v8's. the front has been stretched, and it is painted sonic blue. I get a big kick out of having to put a hood scoop to cover the valve covers. Edited October 21, 2011 by 4bangen
Maindrian Pace Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Awesome. The only thing that looks off to me is that the carbs must sit flat, the floats wouldn't work at those angles. If you get back into it, fashion some wedges to go between the carbs and the blowers. Other than that, one wild GT there. -MJS
4bangen Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 Awesome. The only thing that looks off to me is that the carbs must sit flat, the floats wouldn't work at those angles. If you get back into it, fashion some wedges to go between the carbs and the blowers. Other than that, one wild GT there. -MJS I went back and forth on this same thought, until I found carburetors designed for off roading that work at any angle.
Chuck Most Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 Awesome. The only thing that looks off to me is that the carbs must sit flat, the floats wouldn't work at those angles. If you get back into it, fashion some wedges to go between the carbs and the blowers. Other than that, one wild GT there. -MJS That's probably just as well- it'll save you having to keep replacing blown axles and trannies!
Abell82 Posted October 23, 2011 Posted October 23, 2011 Ladies and gentlemen, I have information that I must bring to your attention... Frankenstang has a brain (er,..interior). And it is abnormal and twisted just as the body is. The custom hood that Frankenstang will be using, made from the grizzly remains of three aborted resin hoods, and a lot of putty.... In case you've missed the photos of the monster that is Frankenstang :
Abell82 Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Frankenstang in it's first skin so to speak ... As you can see still many hours of sanding and filling left to go...
whale392 Posted October 25, 2011 Author Posted October 25, 2011 That is one scary FOX, matt! I would hate to have to look out past that beastly powertrain to see the road (then again, the car would most likely be sideways all the time!). Jason, Frankie is looking more and more like a real, living car every time I see it! Greta work, and hope to see more of them soon! By the way, are you going to fill the convertible door mirror holes, or use the 'vert mirrors?
Abell82 Posted October 26, 2011 Posted October 26, 2011 Jason, Frankie is looking more and more like a real, living car every time I see it! Great work, and hope to see more of them soon! By the way, are you going to fill the convertible door mirror holes, or use the 'vert mirrors? Yeah almost looks like a decent rendering, now.(LOL) I don't know. I have not decided yet. I'm leaning toward the 'vert mirrors, but that could change.
Chuck Most Posted October 26, 2011 Posted October 26, 2011 Just to keep with the 'Frankenstang' theme, what about a weathered finish, with mismatched body panels? You know, green doors, silver body, maroon decklid, one yellow front fender, one red front fender, something like that? If I ever pick up the MAD four-eyed Notch body, I think that's the route I'd go.
Olskoolrodder Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 4 Bangen: that thing looks MEAN as all get out! Abell82-Man,that' thing's coming together,looking sweet in the suede! I have yet to get a Fox started. Been piddling with a CBP build over on another (my) forum,but since the ability only comes in spells with my old injuries,I've been doing this http://disabledcyclist.wordpress.com/2011/10/26/wednesday-october-262011-ride/ a bit more than sitting and building lately,LOL!
Devilsnake98 Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Wanted to post in a thread where i belong, haha. This is my Revell 93 cobra mustang. I did a full discription in the on the workbench thread, then heard bout this fox one, so ill only flood in some pics, the full discription will be left in the on the workbench thread. What do ya think so far? still has plenty of work left.
Devilsnake98 Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 some more pics, slipped together for mockup
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