Darin Bastedo Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 I'm interested in doing some articles for Model Cars on some of the scratch building techniques I do. one of the first I'd like to offer Gregg is on Scratch Building wheels. The question is what wheel to do as a subject. I'm wanting to do something that would appeal to the broadest cross section of model builders. Here are a couple of wheels I've domne in the past... The techniques I use are available to the typical modeler, and can be shown in a step by step method. I want to get some suggestions from you guys on what type of wheel you most want to see made.
Foxer Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 I think this would be extremely interesting! I personally would like to see how you made the one pictured on the red car.
iBorg Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 There's seems to always be a demand by a select few for MiniLites. How in the world to keep four matched, I have no clue. Mike
jbwelda Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 >How in the world to keep four matched, I have no clue. make one and then cast four using the scratch built one as a master?
diymirage Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 i dont think gregg would mind one bit if you just posted a how to in the tips, ideas, tricks and tutorials section and if he thinks its worthy of pinning he will
whale392 Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 Any wheel will work; technique is what we are after! Sign me up for the EXTREMELY interested list.
Darin Bastedo Posted May 26, 2010 Author Posted May 26, 2010 While neither wheel apeals to me, the idea of scratchbuilding artricles definatly does. I'm not looking to do either of these again since I already had them cast, but I am hoping to get some Idea of what you might like to see done. I was thinking maybe some vintage inspired street rod wheel or some sort of wheel that has been ignored in scale. How about a set of these? slixx makes the graphics for this car.
Ariel Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 (edited) These wheels S27 makes the decals Fujimi the makes the car but no wheels Edited May 26, 2010 by Ariel
Scale-Master Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 Any tutorial that clearly explains how to make a quality (especially a popular) part will be received well. Just do something you want, if others like it, great. (Build for yourself.) Wheels are a great choice to show everyone how to make from scratch. BTW, Wasn’t it you that was doing the Barracuda-Viper custom? Did I miss it finished? That had a lot of work in it last time I saw it.
Darin Bastedo Posted May 26, 2010 Author Posted May 26, 2010 Why not just build the things you want to do instead of asking people to vote on it? Make some wheels if you're in the mood. Make what you want. Document it. If MCM/Gregg want to run it as an article they will. If not, you have a set of wheels you wanted out of the deal. I guess I don't get the popular-vote modeling method, personally. I'm not really looking for a popular vote here, just some inspiration. I don't particularly need a set of wheels right now, but want to do the tutorial considering a lot of people have emailed me asking how I do it. if I do a set I'd want them to be something some people might want to duplicate, that would have some relevance to them.
Jeff Sauber Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 I agree with some of the fellas here... No need for a poll, if the "how-to" is any good, folks will follow along. Put together a clinic and post/submit it up. Who give's a rat's butt about percentage numbers and popular votes...If your topic is good learning material, it'll be worthwhile for those interested whether here or in a Mag.,
Darin Bastedo Posted May 26, 2010 Author Posted May 26, 2010 BTW, Wasn’t it you that was doing the Barracuda-Viper custom? Did I miss it finished? That had a lot of work in it last time I saw it. If you are refering to this one... that's not mine it's Dave Gaboury's work. I'm not sure if he finished that one or not but would love to see it if he did. If you are refering to this one... I'm still working on that one, but it isn't viper based.
Darin Bastedo Posted May 26, 2010 Author Posted May 26, 2010 I agree with some of the fellas here... No need for a poll, if the "how-to" is any good, folks will follow along. Put together a clinic and post/submit it up. Who give's a rat's butt about percentage numbers and popular votes...If your topic is good learning material, it'll be worthwhile for those interested whether here or in a Mag., Ok I guess I'll do a set of the foose challenger wheels above I have the kit, and the decals, Might as well do the wheels.
Scale-Master Posted May 27, 2010 Posted May 27, 2010 If you are refering to this one... that's not mine it's Dave Gaboury's work. I'm not sure if he finished that one or not but would love to see it if he did. If you are refering to this one... I'm still working on that one, but it isn't viper based. The one I was thinking of is the top one. Thanks for clarifying.
Darin Bastedo Posted May 28, 2010 Author Posted May 28, 2010 very curious to see how you do those wheels if you are planning on doing them in plastic from my point of view the only way to do them and do them right would be to mill them from aluminum on a CNC machine. the right person doing that(Bob Dudek) would produce some absolutely killer wheels that are perfect representations of the 1:1 wheel albeit at more than likely incredibly high price. there are some incredibly talented scratchbuilders though who work in plastic and i've seen your work before. i think you can do it. Dave That is prmarily why I want to do this series of articles. while billet,CNC machines and lathes are great scratch building tools there are simpler ways of doing things that aren't out of reach of a talented modeler. I'm lucky in that I took about two years off from modeling not due to lack of interest, just that I was 1000 miles away from my kits and tools. Thus my modeling time was spent not at the bench but in doing research, and brainstorming new techniques. My time away was helpful in that it allowed me to step back from my project and think about modeling in a broader sense. I researched new (or new to me at least) tools and materials. Yes a CNC machine would make doing that wheel easier. (to those properly aquanted with using one) but almost any shape is recreateable by hand also. I did not say though that I would be limiting this series to working in plastic, in the case of this wheel set, it will be mostly plastic.
KENNEDYJR Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 I'm not looking to do either of these again since I already had them cast, but I am hoping to get some Idea of what you might like to see done. I was thinking maybe some vintage inspired street rod wheel or some sort of wheel that has been ignored in scale. How about a set of these? slixx makes the graphics for this car. That would be a great project.
pharr7226 Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 I'm very interested in any wheel making tutorial you might offer.
impcon Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 I think that we can all benefit from your knowledge and you are to be commended for being so willing to share it. Thank you. I'd really like to see a very detailed and simply written tutorial on casting parts - both from scratch and reproducing hard to find pieces from available and obsolete kits. Perhaps it may be important to include in detail the methods used to scratch build as well as what materials are and may be used to cast parts. I am sure that there are many different techniques.. and maybe others can contribute their experience and knowledge. One thing I would like to know for example is say for instance, how to duplicate the side trim from a '57 Fairlane hardtop so that it could be used to build a phantom '57 Ranchero with Fairlane 500 side trim. Also, casting tail light lenses - how is it done and what materials would be used? Sources for these materials ( online ) would be good to know as well as many of do not live near a major center where there is an abundance of hobby and craft stores. Many of these questions are probably pretty triviall to the seasoned scratch builders but to many of us, it is all new knowledge. I'm in and appreciative of anything that you post. Gary
Modlbldr Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 I would be very interested in learning the techniques required to make wheels. I have been trying to find 1/25 scale 17 inch Mustang 5 spoke wheels like those found on the 2008 Bullitt Mustangs. The ones included in the kit are not the same. Should be a simple job. http://www.mustangevolution.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/bullitt5.jpg Later-
Jeff Sauber Posted May 31, 2010 Posted May 31, 2010 How about getting started on the tutorial?...I'm interested to see how you go about the process.
Darin Bastedo Posted May 31, 2010 Author Posted May 31, 2010 How about getting started on the tutorial?...I'm interested to see how you go about the process. I'm working on one now.
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