Engines with full internal detail

[Ben]

After seeing that Porsche Speedster in another thread with the pistons, connecting rods and crank, it got me to wondering, just how many 1/25 or 1/24 car kits out there have internal engine detail like this? I know some of the drag engines have engraved, block decks with piston heads represented and valve train detail engraved but I'm wondering about separate pieces like that Porsche has.

[Eric Stone]

AMT 58 Impala has a crank, but no other rotating assembly, IIRC.

The Testors 1/24 scale garage diorama has smallblock Chevy engine internals, but I don't remember what the block looks like. I think the heads are detailed too.

[B_rad88]

i know the revell parts pack engines has cranks in them and iirc rocker arms detail, but thats about it..... also same with the engine in the amt '66 old 442, rocker arms detail.......

[Ben]

AMT 58 Impala has a crank, but no other rotating assembly, IIRC.

The Testors 1/24 scale garage diorama has smallblock Chevy engine internals, but I don't remember what the block looks like. I think the heads are detailed too.

Would that be one of those "Great Garages" kits? I have the 1/24 one but I haven't opened it yet.

[Casey]

No mass produced bi-scale kit has what you're looking for, but the Aurora 1/16 scale 417 Donovan and 392 Hemi engines come close, at least as far as the lower end is concerned.

[Eric Stone]

Would that be one of those "Great Garages" kits? I have the 1/24 one but I haven't opened it yet.

I think so.

[Ben]

No mass produced bi-scale kit has what you're looking for, but the Aurora 1/16 scale 417 Donovan and 392 Hemi engines come close, at least as far as the lower end is concerned.

Yeah, I have those, the Donovan's blower even has the rotors in it!

I was wondering if there's anything like that in 1/25 or 1/24!

[Chuck Most]

I think the old Aurora 1:25 Ford parts pack V8 had full internal detail, but good luck finding one of those things today.

[Guest Markus355]

the revell parts pack engines has a crank, and camshaft in em, but thats it.

[scummy]

AMT wynns jammer has a working crankshaft and blower rotors with a clear sump so you can see the crank turning .

[MikeMc]

the Revell parts pack engines has a crank, and camshaft in em, but thats it.

and separate block, pan , and heads

[Ben]

AMT wynns jammer has a working crankshaft and blower rotors with a clear sump so you can see the crank turning .

Really!? Coool!!!!!! I'll have to get that one! (I might already have it!?) LOL

[torinobradley]

Depending on the level of detail you are looking for, the old Revell tri-fives as well as the early 50s Chevy have a pretty nice block with crank detail, block deck where you can see the pistons and the heads are fairly decent as well. Those were pretty nice because the underside of the parts looked like the underside of the real thing. In other words, the intake looked like the real one from whatever point of view you used. Also, the '66 Nova has a nice extra block & heads to be displayed separately. I started trying to fit the white metal crank available some time back into that to see if I could get a rotating assembly.

[Greg Myers]

As Casey and Ben pointed out :Aurora Racing Scenes

[Greg Myers]

Chuck says:

[Greg Myers]

Not to call a technical foul here, but the thread starter asked about 1/24 and 1/25. The Racing Scenes/Funnycar engines, while very impressive are 1/16.

Just hoping someone would see this and do some reverse engineering down to the correct size.At least I'm not hijacking the thread with some inane comment as to "size matters"

[Greg Myers]

Didn't the Aurora Parts Pack 427 Ford (at least) have piston and rod detail?

I can't tell if the one above is that motor as the photo is pretty small and blowing it up makes it out of focus.

Yes it did. I just can't find the bigger picture. Sorry.

[RickRollerLT1]

IIRC, the motors in the Revell Outlaw, Beatnik Bandit 1 (possibly 2), and Mysterion show cars have some detailed internals such as the camshaft and etc.

[Greg Myers]

AMT Nova

[Ben]

I'm familiar with those Revell engines with the molded in detail. I didn't realize there were so many engines in "American" kits that had that much detail though. I thought it would mostly be the Fujimi/Hasagawa or Tamiya type kits that would feature the detail. I remember, years ago, taking a V8 block and making a crank from sheet plastic (counterweights) and rod stock for the journals. I then used wire to make the connecting rods and bigger plastic rod for the pistons with aluminum tube cylinders. I looked horrible but you could twist the crank and see the pistons move!

[Longbox55]

AMT Nova

Note about this engine, it represents a large journal 302 or 350 4 bolt main Smallblock Chevy, rather than the 327 that would be in the 1:1 Nova. There were no small journal ('55-'67) Smallblocks with 4 bolt mains, and the only 4 bolt large journal ('68-'00) were the 302 and 350, the 327 was never produced as a 4 bolt block, other than a handfull of experimental engines.

[jbwelda]

>Mysterion show cars have some detailed internals such as the camshaft

which is kinda ironic because wasnt it the mysterion with its twin heavy motors, that didnt have internals to reduce the weight and strain on chassis?

[lordairgtar]

The 1/20th scale Ford Van, I believe by MPC had a crankshaft and a clear oil pan plus pistons. I remember trying to add oil into the pan. Not a good idea. I was 14 then.

[Chuck Most]

I believe the Aurora 427 even had the gear molded to the end of the starter!

[Greg Myers]

Note about this engine, it represents a large journal 302 or 350 4 bolt main Smallblock Chevy, rather than the 327 that would be in the 1:1 Nova. There were no small journal ('55-'67) Smallblocks with 4 bolt mains, and the only 4 bolt large journal ('68-'00) were the 302 and 350, the 327 was never produced as a 4 bolt block, other than a handfull of experimental engines.

How do you arrive at these conclusions with such small and limiting detail ?It is labeled as an "accessory engine".

Edited April 7, 2011 by Greg Myers