Police, Fire, Rescue CBP

[Danno]

Danno, that would be a spelling mistake, I was trying to say a certin someone, , I was not calling you any names

Yeah, I knew that.

I just didn't want to miss a chance to slide in a shot ...

[martinfan5]

Yeah, I knew that.

I just didn't want to miss a chance to slide in a shot ...

Of course you wouldnt want to do that , you know great minds think a like, meaning you and agent g, is that because the two of you share one :lol:

[Agent G]

Ok, game on Junior....................

I going to give you a piece of Danno's mind next time I see you.

G

[CorvairJim]

Ok, game on Junior....................

I going to give you a piece of Danno's mind next time I see you.

G

Think he can spare it?

[martinfan5]

The modelhaus chevy caprice/impala got brought up in another thread, here is one of them, I got this back in the 90's, well its seen better days, and If I could get the right a pillar replaced, and the over all just bring this one back to life, I would be happy.

I think I would do it in Phoenix PD markings

[Janne Herajärvi]

Jonathan, that Caprice looks great, wish i could have one. Cant wait to see it finished I have been little bit busy here, but its nice to see you guys keep building up. Cheers...

[Dirkpitt289]

I need to get one of these Caprice's. This is the type of car I drove when I worked for the NJSP.

[martinfan5]

I need to get one of these Caprice's. This is the type of car I drove when I worked for the NJSP.

You can still get them from the modelhaus

http://www.modelhaus.com/index.php?c=4041&p=63472

[Dirkpitt289]

For $62 that ain't gonna happen. I'll do with out

[martinfan5]

I hear you

[bandit1]

update for my Pumper....notice my profile pic....thats the truck im building...you can change it from international 8100 to now a Ford F800....!

As always...Comments and Critiicizem welcomed!

[Agent G]

Well since I posted last I completed this one.

and this one.

G

And started this one!

G

[martinfan5]

St Louis PD for the van ?

[Agent G]

St Louis PD for the van ?

Oh yes. We used them as prisoner conveyance vehicles. They had to be short wheel base vans so to fit the sally port of the Headquarters building. Too long and you couldn't get in all the way or turn around to get out. I always wondered how they did that with the horse drawn paddy wagons in days gone by. The HQ was built in '30 to '31. We didn't get the first dedicated motorized panel van 'til '36.

G

[martinfan5]

What color did you use on the van?, looks good, so is the width of the port like what, three/four parkings space's wide?. You know, thats one thing I have always wondered about, why for the most part, its uncommon out here on the west coast for city/county's to use paddy wagons, like they do on the east coast.

Edited August 17, 2012 by martinfan5

[Danno]

You know, thats one thing I have always wondered about, why for the most part, its uncommon out here on the west coast for city/county's to use paddy wagons, like they do on the east coast.

The biggest reason you see a tradition of paddy wagons in the East is driven by the way the US grew up. There has always been a higher concentration of population East of the Mississippi River (including St. Louis, which was the biggest city in "The West" and served as the 'last outpost of civilization' when the settlement of the western frontier began). The cities in the East were built up (tall buildings) rather than out (sprawl) because there were so many people to pack into small (geographically speaking) areas.

As a result, most of the cities in the East had huge populations living in physically small areas. Police could and did patrol and keep the peace on foot. When an arrest was necessary, however, the foot patrol officer could not effectively transport a prisoner or two to the station. So, a wagon was employed to circulate among the foot patrol beats for the purpose of picking up arrestees and hauling them to the station.

Contrast that to the wild, wild West where land was far more plentiful than people. Police could not walk beats. So, law enforcement in the West grew up more dependent on lone patrol officers having all the tools they needed at hand, including a means of moving prisoners themselves. There were no circulating paddy wagons to transport prisoners, so those new-fangled patrol cars were equipped with onboard prisoner detention accomodations. Originally, sturdy loops on the floors to attach shackle chains; later, what we call "cages" or "prisoner shields" separating the front seat from the 'customer service' area.

Notice also that Denver, Los Angeles, and San Francisco became very large cities early in the growth of the Western U.S. They had downtown areas that grew "up" with dense urban populations, similar to the Eastern cities. Foot patrols and paddy wagons were employed in those locales, much like the East. In later years, other population centers like Wichita and Phoenix utilized paddy wagons.

But the use of paddy wagons has always been dictated by population density and the presence or absence of foot patrolling.

[Agent G]

Danno hit it on the head right there.

Check this site, lots of good pics, and memories.

http://www.slpva.com/historic/saintlouiscitypolice.html

G

[martinfan5]

That all makes sense Dan, thank you , something I always wondered.

[Danno]

That all makes sense Dan, thank you , something I always wondered.

No prob. I know everything ~ I'm the police chief.

[Agent G]

G

[Agent G]

I'll add this one to the thread as well.

G

[Danno]

Nice, G. Quite nice!

[Agent G]

I thought I'd switch coasts for this next one, decades too. A 1949 Ford RMP from the 41st precinct in the Bronx. Known later as "Fort Apache" this was a really nice neighborhood in '49.

G

[martinfan5]

Hey Wayne, I am going to join in here, I am going to be building this, doing it for a group build off on EScale

I have to thank the Chief for selling me the kit

[Nick Winter]

Hmmmm Great minds think alike, I've got an Daytona to go with my Monaco though.

Nick