Lunajammer Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 (edited) In another topic in this forum, Jon Cole writes, "I personally do not understand the host clubs fear of handling of models (at shows), much less the builders themselves. Has anyone ever broke a model at a contest? Yes, actually. It wasn't a car but a bomber with operable, motorized propellers which belonged to a fellow modeler. Each time we drifted by the model throughout the day, another blade was laying on the table, despite a sign placed directly in front of it requesting it not be touched. Infuriating. So I think Jon's questions is intriguing. Have you seen models broken while on the show tables? Edited September 12, 2011 by Lunajammer
tabsscale1 Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Yes I have as i was the one that broke the model. I was taking pictures of the models on the table. Had a mini tripod on my camera and just set it down. The camera fell over and landed on the front suspension of a topfuel dragster.The camera just shattered the front end like a peice of glass. I knew the model and felt terrible the rest of the day.
jbwelda Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 i was at a show once that our model club was hosting and overhead of the display table was a balcony and this lady was up there fiddling around with her cell phone and yep you guessed it: she dropped the *&^% phone and it landed dead center on a club members pride and joy chevy hardtop that he had just finished for the show. completely smashed in and cracked the entire top, shattered the windshield and i forget what all else. the lady came down and asked for her phone and didnt even evidence any concept that she had just broken someones model and when she was informed of that she offered to give the guy like 20$ or something. i believe she was invited to take a hike. i think our club then rebuilt the car for the builder although i am a bit foggy on the exact outcome, only that the poor car was pretty much completely destroyed. believe me, after seeing that, i moved all my models to the back of the table, under the overhang.
1320wayne Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 The model shown here was dropped on it's roof at the first show that I took it too after just finishing it days prior. As you can well imagine, something built in this style warrants some fragile areas. The hood snapped off, the trunk as well. Amazingly enough though, nothing broke in the sense that it couldn't be repaired or re-glued. A judge was moving the model for photo purposes and it just came sliding off the base. It was entirely my fault due in part to the way I had it displayed as the clear acrylic posts that supported the model were not attached to the mirrored base. Unfortunately, my first response when I found out what had happened was anger until I came to my senses and realized two things. It's just plastic and it could be repaired and the guy that dropped it felt so horrible and my intial response didn't do anything to help that situation out. Accidents do happen.
Lunajammer Posted September 12, 2011 Author Posted September 12, 2011 A judge was moving the model for photo purposes and it just came sliding off the base. It was entirely my fault due in part to the way I had it displayed as the clear acrylic posts that supported the model were not attached to the mirrored base.... Accidents do happen. True, but shouldn't the judge have not assumed everything was rock solid? Should they not have requested your assistance if they wanted to move something that was displayed differently than a typical static model?
Chuck Most Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 I've broken a few en route to shows, but so far nothing major. The only ones I've destroyed beyond repair are the ones that never leave the display room. "Dusting Mishaps" mostly.
philo426 Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Perhaps one solution is to have all contestants fill out a card with special handling instructions or better yet have the modeler present at the time of judging so if the the judge wants to get a better view the builder could handle the model safely.
Nova-ss Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 I have saw some models get miner damage.but no real bad damage as some here have discribed.I did see a soda pop spilled all over a table and yes some models got the soda pop bath.it damaged some of the papers that modeler had print by there models.they were not happy about that.we just desided to have no more drinks or eats in the contest hall.its been ok sense.Thanks,Chris
Romell R Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 The model pictured below was pushed off a contest table by a competitor I would beat at every show. I guess he finally got fed up with being beat (well he almost received the beating of his life that day) as a matter of fact it was the very show this picture was taken at. Anyway my friends held me back and the guy was banned from ever completing again. I took my pride and joy home and she sat in a box for 15 years until I decided to fix her. the second pic is how she sits now. her new look.....
DanielG Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Lost the right landing gear on a P-51 once, I was only 16 and was a bit choked at the time but got over it after talking with the hosts. It was just one of those things that happen, so much water off a duck's back!
PatRedmond Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Knocked off a couple mirrors as a judge back in the day.
george 53 Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Rom, I KNOW it's only plastic, but YOU my freind, are the GREATEST modeler I have EVER SEEN !! You turned a MONTE CARLO into a Mustang? Aside from the HORRENDOUS mistake OF that action, it STILL came out lookin like a million bucks!!!! See you can do just about ANYTHING with PLASTIC!!!! Great job on the rescue!!! :lol:
Bastardo Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 That's one of my biggest fears as far as contests and display shows are concerned... :/ I've seen spoilers get ripped off, antennas flying of the rallye cars,mudguards on trucks being broken off the frames, models rolling of the mirror as the judge picked them up to take them to the judging table... And at one huge die-cast display show I've seen a bunch of kids walking around and poking each and every model that was on the table. Their parrents were standing about 1 m behind them and watching and laughing their a**es off... 'Till I snapped and screamed:"HEY!!!" in the most death-metal voice I could come up with... And being a metal-head for 'bout 20 years now, believe me - I can do hat LOL The kids went white, packed their fingers away and ran to hide behind their mommies and daddies. One of them was about to say something to me 'till I turned in his dirrection and gave him "the look"... Snap it - I'd rather be hated by those few dumbos then see any of those AutoArts, CMCs and other high-end die-casts being damaged. On another show I've seen the rotor of a magnificent 1:32 helicopter being ripped off by a 3-4 year old kid, while his mom didn't seem to give a snap... A great way to raise your kid - destroy what isn't yours and don't even worry 'bout it... The owner of the 'copter wasn't there so I stepped up to her (I was watching from about a meter away and my "Don't...!!!" was a second too late) and asked her what was she about to do now... She looked me in the most careless way and said:"Nothing. It's a toy anyway...". Before she finished I added:"Mam, that "toy" costs over a 100 bucks (euros), the modeller worked on it for over a year for a few hours a day and he spent A LOT of nerves building it. I think you owe him atleast an appology...". She was shocked by the numbers and she turned white... Her respone was:"F*** that, I'm not doing it...". I picked up my DSLR, took a shot of her and said:"Ok, my friend wil be able to find you by this picture..." and smiled. Gues what... Yeees, she was apologizing to the dude in about 37 seconds... As far as photographing models is concerned: I always start sweating when I see someone leaning over the tables with their cameras, key-chains, scarfs, medals and other stuff hanging from their necks... For the love of R2D2: Step back, zoom in with your camera and enyoy the shot... There's no need for you to take a macro shot of the dust on that model-car's windscreen with your camera from 17 milimeters away...
Darin Bastedo Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Yup, I've seen it happen and it will happen again. Accidents will happen and some people are just clueless. But in the end, all you can do is clean up the mess and fix the model if you can.
1320wayne Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 True, but shouldn't the judge have not assumed everything was rock solid? Should they not have requested your assistance if they wanted to move something that was displayed differently than a typical static model? In this situation it was a two day show and the judging and photography was done after hours with no contestants around so they could not ask me before handling. As it was already mentioned contestants should insure that they post a note of some sort explaining any special handling instructions. I learned from this experience and do that everytime now.
Dr. Cranky Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 My biggest fear at a show is that someone would walk off with a model, or that an unattended kid would be found on the floor with one of my models trying to make the wheels move. LOL! If I take a model to a show, I don't put the responsibility of looking out for the model on anyone else. I sit near it and answer questions about it, but keeping my eye on it as long as I can . . . luckily, nothings ever happened to any of my work. You have to respect others' property in order to get that respect back.
High octane Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 After judging a number of model car contests, I and other judges do NOT want the builder around when we're judging. Some people enter models with wheels and other parts are not secure at all. I've learned over the years that epoxy has a very strong bond and few to no parts ever come off therefore I don't need to bring a "repair kit" when I take my models to show, contests, club meetings, etc.. I have seen many people looking at the models on the tables who are NOT very careful and even walk around with a can of pop and sometimes put it on the table which if spilled can cause damage to a builder's labor of love. Some people just don't THINK!
Chitown Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 I remeber an incident during the MPC contest at the World of Wheels car show in Chicago in the early '70s. They were using those cafeteria-style tables with the legs that fold under at either end, about 8 feet long. Not sure what happend, but there were officials around it when one set of legs folded under on atable full of entries, creating a ramp sending everything sliding to the floor. About the only way I can describe the sound is to imagine a giant box of uncooked rice spilling onto a large plate-glass surface... and then silence. Not a pretty sight.
SuperStockAndy Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 (edited) The model pictured below was pushed off a contest table by a competitor I would beat at every show. I guess he finally got fed up with being beat (well he almost received the beating of his life that day) as a matter of fact it was the very show this picture was taken at. Anyway my friends held me back and the guy was banned from ever completing again. I took my pride and joy home and she sat in a box for 15 years until I decided to fix her. the second pic is how she sits now. her new look..... I remember reading about that. If that would have been me, well, I'd probably end up being banned too. Oh, this happened at home, I hope it counts.... My dad had the AMT USA 1 monster truck. I was maybe around 2 at the time? You guessed it. I got a 4 monster truck tires in my parts box I was thinking of building it and giving it to him. Edited September 12, 2011 by Android
my name is nobody Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Yes.I have seen careless dimwits at model car shows break things. it is one of the reasons I no longer enter my models at any event. However, I have seen the same stupidity at 1:1 car shows as well. any time you invite the general public to an event, you get all kinds of people. Some have respect for other people's property. Lately, it seems that many people do not have any respect at all.
SuperStockAndy Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Dave, I wonder what word came out then?
Junkman Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 The model pictured below was pushed off a contest table by a competitor... That must be the lowest thing I ever heard about in the context of a competition. I always thought it can't get any lower than fighting in the paddock area, but this beats it by not a narrow margin. No idea how I would have reacted. Man, is this low.
Guest Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Haven't had a model get busted,but had a couple get left with big nasty fingerprints and one had specks of paint stuck to to body also. I don't have a problem with a judge picking up my models as long as they use gloves to protect the paint. However I do have a problem with a certain magazine editor (or whoever it was) picking up two of my models (as if they were their own) and carrying them to the photography area sixty feet away! I had no idea that they would do that or I would have removed the slips under my models before the judging. I thought he would get the hint,but apparently I was wrong. Next year,there won't be any confusion about it.
Foxer Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 I remeber an incident during the MPC contest at the World of Wheels car show in Chicago in the early '70s. They were using those cafeteria-style tables with the legs that fold under at either end, about 8 feet long. Not sure what happend, but there were officials around it when one set of legs folded under on atable full of entries, creating a ramp sending everything sliding to the floor. About the only way I can describe the sound is to imagine a giant box of uncooked rice spilling onto a large plate-glass surface... and then silence. Not a pretty sight. OMG!!
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