Rick Schmidt Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Chuck Why use the 08 Grille insert ? A little Mesh from a Tamiya kit would look so much better I think
Chuck Most Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 Mostly just because I have a spare '08 Bullitt grille, and I've already cut it down to fit.
martinfan5 Posted December 9, 2011 Author Posted December 9, 2011 I should do a mach 1 , so im not left out
venom97 Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 Jason, I like the wheels, if you strip it are you going to repaint blue or a different color? I'm not sure yet,I really like the blue but I'm going to check out what colors they have for my airbrush and see if something catches my eye. Lol
martinfan5 Posted December 9, 2011 Author Posted December 9, 2011 (edited) Well I painted the bullitt, but it still came out really light then even the cap color, so I think I know what did wrong, I sanded the black base coat so it made it lighter. So I am going to strip it and start over . But the engine compartment on the interior piece is the right shade . Edited December 9, 2011 by martinfan5
Olskoolrodder Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 I hate to hear of all the extra work you're having to do,Jonathan,been there myself. I got my new hood shot and cleared this eve,and piddled with the chassis a bit more. Hoping to get the chassis done tomorrow (all except for ride height and wheel\tire mounting),and the interior if at all possible. Here's what the new hood looks like... More to come
martinfan5 Posted December 9, 2011 Author Posted December 9, 2011 did you use a black base coat on the hood?, it looks good, ahh it happens, I should of did a few light mist coats then sanded it smooth , and not sand the base coat , or maybe I should made the black base coat a little thicker . One day I might learn how to paint
Olskoolrodder Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 LOL,it ain't that hard,my friend. Yeah,I have black underneath,Duplicolor scratch-filler grey primer,followed by black,then the green,then the clear. Joshua,I meant to tell you,LOVING that fade job! I wasn't planning on a mockup until tomorrow,but I couldn't resist (besides,I gots to wait until the dishwasher runs it's course before crashing out ). Bear in mind,the wheels should tuck up in nicely,as far as I trim the Pegasus mounting "hubs" to go in. More tomorrow
martinfan5 Posted December 9, 2011 Author Posted December 9, 2011 looking good, I know how to paint for the most part , just sometimes I forgot how do it, I call them my stupid moments while painting
Chuck Most Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 My '08 Bullet has SEM Dark Highland Green (had a can of it mixed up at the local Car Quest) and it was applied over black Duplicolor primer- the resulting shade looks very close to the 1:1... I'm not sure if they used black or dark gray primer on the 1:1 though.
whale392 Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 Medium Gray primer was used on the real cars (think of your standard 2K Gray primer), but I think by using a slightly darker primer on the model, it enhances the panel lines and depth of the body panel creases/lines. I love the work you all are putting in on these scale renditions of the S197, and going into the 'what if' realm. THAT is why I like this little corner of MCM we have going (the Mustang CBP threads), the ideas and freedom to talk to one another about them. Now, as to my entry: I am starting with the Revell 2010 Mustang GT Coupe. Along the lines of our own MrMike, I will be doing a storyline (fictional for the most part) of how the 'real' car came to be, along with documenting the build. Photos will accompany the build process, and will be interjected with the story. So, who's up for some S197 storytelling? The Story (pt 1) I got tired of working on airplanes, and tired of Ohio in general. Deciding I needed something different and being involved in automobiles my whole life anyway, I decided to use the remainder of my G.I Bill to help fund an Engineering degree, specializing in automotive and powertrains at that. Driving around in my trusty old FOX Mustang, I knew I wanted to apply to Ford when I finished. 4 years and a lot of sleepless weeks later, I have my degree, still tooling around in my Fox. Telling PSA Airlines that sand can be packed, I headed 3 hours north (wrong direction for a Florida Cracker to head) to see what I can do in Detroit. Applied to Ford, and was hired! Great, I am in! So, 2 years into Ford and designing brackets for front dress (not what I had hoped for), I went to my bosses to see what I could do about getting onto 'Team Mustang'. I was told to go back to my Focus project. That does it, I will show these guys what it is to be me! Kicking around the salvage yards and Insurance claim pools, I stumbled upon a theft-recovery 2010GT Mustang Coupe.........but man was it rough. Missing the drivetrain, computer, wiring harness, seats, and wheels/tires/brakes, it had been stripped. Front end and hood were pretty bent up from where the tow-truck driver had stated it was driven/dumped into the ravine. Trunk spoiler was absolutely a mess, and some of it was even missing. All in all, a write-off. After some words and cash exchanged hands, I had the base for my 'project'. Tony wanted $20 and a six-pack to flatbed this shell back to my place....deal! I'll have to butter up the landlord later. As I sit and stare at the car, I get this idea. It will take work, sleepless nights, and maybe even some petty thievery, but I know what I want to do and I WILL DO IT! I see a tribute Mach1 in this shells future! Let the games begin. The build: I will spare you the 'Body-in-white' over wheels and box-art pics (besides, Photobucket is being a real pain for uploading pics right now). You all know what they look like anyway. I will be blending elements from the 1969, 1970, and 2003-04 Mach1s into this build, along with some real Ford thinking behind the Mach1. Color will be one that hasn't been seen for quite some time, either 1993 Calypso or 1969 Diamond Green with a Pearl added. I will update this as it goes. Already, I have the grill opened (much as Chuck has shown, but I will leave mine open with just the running horse logo in it (ala 2003-04 Mach1 style), the rear trunk spoiler holes and gas cap hole filled (but not smoothed), and the hood in basic cuts for the 'Shaker' scoop to poke through (ala 1969 and 2003-04).
Chuck Most Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 Sounds a little bit like the idea behind that MkVII I've got going on the Fox community build. (Which, by the way, looks exactly as it did the last time anybody saw it. ) Can't wait to see what you have in store for it! Talked about my '08 Bullitt earlier- if the snow isn't too deep this morning, maybe I'll venture outside and snap some decent pics of it.
martinfan5 Posted December 9, 2011 Author Posted December 9, 2011 Chuck/whale, thanks for the info on the priming for the bullitt's, I know what I did wrong, well two things, one not buying a dark enough green. My purple bath is working fast on the krylon , it should be ready to repaint tomorrow afternoon. I am not very good at making up storys, I think I passed my story telling class in collage with a C, dont remember the grade, I just know I passed it . I know for my 2010 GT500, I am thinking of going with side scoops, and window scoops( if I can find them), and maybe a different hood, not sure yet.
Olskoolrodder Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 I will spare you the 'Body-in-white' over wheels and box-art pics (besides, Photobucket is being a real pain for uploading pics right now). You all know what they look like anyway. What are you trying to say...hitting so close to home like that? Cool backstory,my friend,that would just be cool had it happened. I'm diggin your idears on this one,it'll be killer to watch!
whale392 Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 Stephen, I do the same thing! if I were running a 'body-in-white' shop, I'd never run out of product I have to do some careful measuring and cutting, but I think I found a way to get the front end lower and the front tires tucked into the wheel wells (it doesn't look the easiest, so if I fail, I fail). I will report back (with pictures and an explanation) whether I succeed or fail.
Chuck Most Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 I'll be keeping an eye on that either way- I've got lowering the nose on the '06-style kits down pat, but I hear a bit more trimming and grinding is needed to perform this on the '10 kit. Bringing the rear end down seems pretty straightforward, I'm still kind of 'eyeballing' things up front to see how to make it workable.
martinfan5 Posted December 10, 2011 Author Posted December 10, 2011 On the 2010's, you almost have to remove the entire inner fender well to get it to sit lower. If you try to grind it down you will end up going thru.
whale392 Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 You know how you can remove the inner front fender straps on the frame and take a hair off the body-side inner fender wells on the '05-09 kits to drop them? Definitely not as easy on the '10 kits. But, being as the engine bay/inner wheel well detail was cast as part of the interior and not the body (as the 05-09s were), I think I have found a way. I will be cutting the inner fender wells away from the interior tub just above where they meet the framerails, leaving a thin bit of plastic sticking forward. Take the interior tub, tape it to the chassis so that those thin strips remaining of the inner wheel wells stay square and parallel to the frame rails, and adding some styrene to the strips of inner wheel house left (to add height to the inner fender wells). Next, I will shave the tops of the inner fender wells down (test fitting along the way) until they fit between the modified inner base and the body (without the shock towers touching the hood). Then, glue the inner fender wells back onto the now raised lower portions of the wells and frame. After al is secure, modify the firewall ends to fit the new position of the inner fenders, and take the dremel and thin out the material at the shock towers an in the wheel wells until it is thin enough to clear the tires. looking at it, this method will be good for roughly .040"-.060" of drop, maybe a bit more. Add the .020" that can be taken out material-wise when thinning the inner fender material, and you can accommodate a better wheel/tire and have roughly an .080" workable drop (2" in scale).
martinfan5 Posted December 10, 2011 Author Posted December 10, 2011 I am interested to see how its going to look, get some pics up when you get a chance. I got the black base coat back on the bullitt , then I dropped the hood on the ground while it was still kind of wet , oh well, I ran out of weather for today for any more painting .
Olskoolrodder Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 (edited) I have yet to even look inside the box of mine (except to see what color decal stripes I had to work with). I can ALMOST picture that,looking forward to pics. Thanks for sharing it with us,my friend,it'll come in handy soon. Sorry to hear that,Jonathan...at least it ain't only me that does that,LOL! Piddled with sub-assemblies on the Bullitt today. Nevermind the dust in these shots,a blast of compressed air already took care of it,LOL! I also got most of the glass trimming done (needs another lite coat of Stop Light Red out back),so tomorrow (kid behaiors permitting ) I'll assemble all the bits on the body,apply some decals,mate it all together and start figuring the ride height using Mike's method,and see what I gots to do to mount those Pegasus wheels on there. It's in the home stretch now Edited December 10, 2011 by Olskoolrodder
martinfan5 Posted December 10, 2011 Author Posted December 10, 2011 (edited) Steve, looking good my friend, I just threw the hood back in the purple bath and it should be ready to reapaint, oh by now , I am going to try and get it painted this weekend, but not sure, its going to be a busy weekend, shopping , getting the tree, I need to get the lights up on the house. thats the shade i am getting when sprayed over black, what ya think guys? close enough? Edited December 10, 2011 by martinfan5
Olskoolrodder Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 Looks good to my eye,my friend (shade and what's done so far)!
Chuck Most Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 Trees are for outdoors, and I already have porch lights... I'm ready to build somethin'!
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