Randy D Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Hi Ray, Great fab work going on here !!!!! This is really cool stuff ! Randy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxer Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I'm fascinated seeing your work progress and enjoying you gift to us all of your build progress. Something I'd never attempt, but wouldn't miss watching! Those last metal body panels really opened my eyes .. wonderful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) Thanks to everyone for looking...appreciate the comments. It is cool...I'm totally captivated by the challenge of what I'm attempting here. Many grey areas in my mind, at this point as to how to proceed, technique wise. But, not knowing how to do it is the "juice" in all of this for me...the learning of a new set of skills. One problem that I've identified is my crimping tool is putting too hard of a bend in the metal. Going to kiss the tips with a 40 grit grinder disc & soften them a bit. Make it easier for the tucks to flow down into the shrink. Couple of caulking tools for working the break lines down into the bowls. Edited March 12, 2015 by Ognib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 The .016 panel hugs the buck nicely, at this point. Picks up & highlights the slight feature line nicely. Torsional strength, when I twist it slightly, is not as great as I would like. But I really think when I get an instrument panel & firewall stuck in place, plus being attached to floor rails & pan, it will be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codi Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Wow Ray. That is pulling in beautifully. Thanks for the amount of detail and photos you're sharing along the way. There are important lessons here that I'm sure I'll attempt to replicate one day and you're blazing a great path. Cheers, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted March 15, 2015 Author Share Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) Thanks, Tim. The .016 is much more suited for this than the .032. In fact, the .032 is heavy enough that it was almost overpowering the wood on the edges, where I attempted to get a good crisp bend line. I enjoy the photography & writing, so the reporting here is just an enjoyable part of the hobby. Plus, the great folks I get to meet! Edited March 17, 2015 by Ognib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooneyzs Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Ray... This is a freaking awesome build. Man you have me blown away by hand making all of the body panels. Man is that some nice work. I am in for the long hall on this build and will be following along for sure. Keep up the great work on this. I am looking forward to more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Gilkeson Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 curious if you have tried high freq. tig on any of this material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codi Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Any updates Ray?? Don't stop now okay.....was really enjoying this thread. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 Thanks, everyone. Been snowed under with work on the day job. Haven't taken a day off in over 2 weeks, so no time for this. I work for several local pro players taking care of their gear. Everyone's getting stuff ready for their summer tours & schedules. It'll level off here before too much longer & I can get back on the build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xploited Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I would like to just say WOW. I just read threw all the pages on this topic and the amount of knowledge you've learned from beginning to now is really motivating . Your expert craftsmen skills really leave me speechless and I cant wait till you get to melting some metal will be tuneing in and I'm very exicted to see you get back to this ! Cheers, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 Thanks, you hit the nail on the head, John! The challenge of learning how to do things that I currently don't know how to do is my entire motivation in this. A lot of trial and error. My pile of scrap metal is growing as I make my mistakes. But, the feeling of accomplishment when I finally get it right...priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twokidsnosleep Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Enjoy watching this thread as the build comes along Love how you are showing us your techniques and ideas... good or not so successful A great learning thread for anyone interested in scratch building Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 The process is my favorite part, Scott. Happy to be sharing it with you. Something about this car I really like. It's got a really nasty looking attitude. The stance, etc, definitely performance oriented. Really like the wind screens. I'm intrigued by the front differential & the air horns at the grill top & contemplating where they located the radiator & how they're directing adequate air flow to it. What components they're using for the all wheel drive assembly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 Development of the buck for grill shell. Stuck the plastic piece to the block with a few drops of super glue...don't want it coming loose at the wrong time. Forstner bits cut a nice flat bottom hole. It'll take a while to excavate the grill area inside the shell...this is a hard piece of mahogany & if I push my bit too hard it'll overheat & loose it's sharp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 With the machine running, I moved the block into the bit until I could just begin to feel contact against the side of the bit & then down for the cut. This gives me an accurate transfer of points. Separated the glue line with the x-acto blade & gave it a quick ride on the belt sander for a clean flat surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 There was a lip around the grill which allowed it to seat against the back of the opening on the shell, for ease of fitting on the model. Trimmed that lip off so it will now fit "in" the opening. Centered it on the buck & used it's shape to "connect the dots", if you will, for an accurate pattern to work to in shaping the opening on the buck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 Fits the opening nicely. Now needs tapered down to the sides. Little round off work around the outer edges & I've got myself a grill shell hammerform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codi Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Every time you post an update Ray it affirms why I've been following along with your build. I love this stuff. Glad to see you back at it again now that time has permitted. Will be sure to keep checking in of course and thanks for posting. Cheers, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) My shop music for today.... A most profound set of lyrics! http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=eye%20of%20the%20storm%20frank%20marino&qs=n&form=QBVR&pq=eye%20of%20the%20storm%20frank%20marino&sc=0-21&sp=-1&sk=#view=detail&mid=53F2CAD9FFEFCA5ED33B53F2CAD9FFEFCA5ED33B Edited May 10, 2015 by Ognib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 Thanks Tim. Good to be back. Gotta make hay while the sun shines, tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ognib Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) Shaping metal is accomplished by shrinking and/or stretching. Simple to say, not so simple to accomplish, I'm finding. The larger bucks (body & cowl) are a work in progress in their own right as I fit my rather extensive collection of templates to the wood...or fit the wood to the templates is probably a better way to say it. I'm hot to get something finished in metal that I feel can actually be used on the build. The grill shell is small & simple comparatively so I'm going to focus on it for now. Two ways I can approach the grill shell. either start on the outside & shrink into the smaller radius on the inside. Folds in the paper indicate how much shrinking required. Stretching is "easier" to do than shrinking. I can start on the inside & stretch the metal out to the larger radius. This is the method I'm going to use. The stretching will thin the metal as it happens. I've been experimenting with .016 & .032 up to this point. I bought some .025" sheet & am going to start with it for the shell. See how this works out. Edited May 14, 2015 by Ognib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 Cut a plug to fit the opening to act as a clamping block during shaping. This will have to be shaped down to allow the metal between the block and the shell buck. Want there to be somewhat of a press fit here for snugness & holding power. Aluminum will have a lip in the bottom for the block to clamp to. This lip will be trimmed off after shaping is complete. Using a couple of pieces of angle steel, I bent the lip for the metal blank. Estimated length needed is 15", which will provide some overlap for fitting of the seam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codi Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Just fascinating Ray is all I got for you. Appreciate the pics and excellent explaination along the way of what you're doing. Can't wait to see how this turns out. I know now why Wingrove and others use brass and copper (Wingrove was big on copper for parts like this one based upon his two books I bought) to do this in aluminum is just insane. My best wishes for success on this build...........you truly deserve it. Cheers, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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