Dragline Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 As much as I love my countryman Gil, Senna is the Legend. I love his driving and it truly makes me say Schumacher who? This thread is celebrating his life, not his passing. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Thanks Rob, it was posted to remember a great driver and great human being. One million people cared and attended his funeral. Next year is going to be huge... can't believe it's been almost 20 years. There have been lots of tributes and photos posted on the various Facebook Senna fan pages today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM485 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I really wish I would have been alive to see him drive, but based on what I have seen he was an incredible driver. This video really does his skill justice, absolutely unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 It would be like you posting the obituary of the Missing Pumpkins guy who died from an OD... Uh, Pat, that's Smashing Pumpkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluhead Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 He knows that, Harry...he thinks he's being clever, or ironic. *cough* Before CImmaronPat gets this one closed, too... I also have not been able to get enthused about F1 racing since Senna died. I sat there at home like so many others, completely stunned, while they worked to get him out of his race car. Senna is an amazing documentary and if you've never watched it, you're truly missing something special. I hope to god that they never follow through on the threats of making a Senna movie...there's no way to capture his story as well as the real deal. And yes, turn it up loud. Really loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lownslow Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I love the video of Senna driving a NSX with dress shoes. And yes everyone needs to check Senna out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadillacPat Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Uh, Pat, that's Smashing Pumpkins. Harry, you walked right into that one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even Gluebomb got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CadillacPat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Although I've never been a fan of open wheel car type racing. But I am a fan of Senna, the man had style , grace and huge talent. The racing commnnity lost a force to be reckoned with and the world lost someone actually worthy of being idolized. I've seen parts of the documentary but at some point will get it and watch the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest G Holding Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 (edited) This is for A few who just don't get it...... http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Ayrton+Senna# About 17,200,000 results (0.27 seconds) But a lot more do..... Yeah Josh, your wrong, take time to learn how good he really was. "Nada pode me separar do amor de Deus" Edited May 4, 2013 by G Holding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brudda Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Thank you for letting us see the master at work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Barrow Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Well as much as I care about Wally Nelson. Correct me if I'm wrong, but was this guy the one who hit the wall or something at the autobahn? I was 10 at the time I remember some things, but I also wasn't real big into cars at that point. There are no words, so here's a Cosby gif... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 OK, last chance for this one. Keep it on topic, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Comparing Senna to Earnhardt is apples to oranges just my 2cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Johnny Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Comparing Senna to Earnhardt is apples to oranges just my 2cents Your right! Senna only drove how many races a year??? Great driver in his own right just as was Earnhardt! So no, not apples and oranges, just two different types of racing and race cars. But both great drivers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjordan2 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Your right! Senna only drove how many races a year??? Great driver in his own right just as was Earnhardt! So no, not apples and oranges, just two different types of racing and race cars. But both great drivers! Quite true. It takes an entirely different set of skills to drive in NASCAR vs. Formula 1 open-wheel racing. Both are great. And as a NASCAR driver who has just received an Indycar ride said earlier today on TV, the skills don't really translate immediately between different formats like NASCAR, F1, Indycar, etc. He said it takes experience and the intuition you learn. I think those different skills can be understood when you look at the F1 Monaco route and Daytona. Personally, I think it takes more skill to deal with the hairpins, switchbacks, etc. in F1, but NASCAR and Indycar are far more lethal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Quite true. It takes an entirely different set of skills to drive in NASCAR vs. Formula 1 open-wheel racing. Which is exactly why comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges, like Bill said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Barrow Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 (edited) Gotta remember too, that at the time Senna was probably one of the 5 most famous people on the entire planet. Senna's grave attracts more visitors a year than the graves of John F Kennedy, Marilyn Monroe and Elvis Presley combined. Comparing the death of Senna to the death of Dale Earnhardt I would say is, to me, like comparing the death of Richie Evans to the death of Earnhardt. I grew up in Martinsville, VA, Richie Evans was a legendary Modified Driver who died in a crash at Martinsville Speedway. Everybody in Martinsville knew who Richie Evans was and remembers that event, but I doubt very many people outside of Martinsville or those that follow Modified racing have ever heard of him. Inside of the US, everybody knew who Dale Earnhardt was and remembers that event, but I doubt that many people outside of the US had ever heard of Dale Earnhardt. Outside of the US, everybody knew who Ayrton Senna was and remembers that event. Edited May 4, 2013 by Brett Barrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest G Holding Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Quite true. It takes an entirely different set of skills to drive in NASCAR vs. Formula 1 open-wheel racing. Both are great. And as a NASCAR driver who has just received an Indycar ride said earlier today on TV, the skills don't really translate immediately between different formats like NASCAR, F1, Indycar, etc. He said it takes experience and the intuition you learn. I think those different skills can be understood when you look at the F1 Monaco route and Daytona. Personally, I think it takes more skill to deal with the hairpins, switchbacks, etc. in F1, but NASCAR and Indycar are far more lethal. Yes the road tracks are a lot more challenging for both driver and car, but several QUALITY drivers from other venues CHAMPIONS in other prof ranks have failed big time in NASCAR. I think of Steve Kinser or Dick Trickle to pick on 2. Kinser a WOO superstar dirt driver champion 14 times ?? Dick Trickle...short track late models, dirt and pavement 1000 wins....BUT both these guys stunk in NASCAR, even though both had roundy round racing backgrounds. Why, well big league NASCAR is long and fast races , high pressure driving in traffic with a pack of closely matched cars...ALL quite fast and these are the best drivers. who is better...Apples, Oranges, and a cornucopia of others...ALL different, so head out to your favorite track and see what YOU like!! I gotta run now to watch the NHRA rerun of qualifying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest G Holding Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Gotta remember too, that at the time Senna was probably one of the 5 most famous people on the entire planet. Senna's grave attracts more visitors a year than the graves of John F Kennedy, Marilyn Monroe and Elvis Presley combined. Comparing the death of Senna to the death of Dale Earnhardt I would say is, to me, like comparing the death of Richie Evans to the death of Earnhardt. I grew up in Martinsville, VA, Richie Evans was a legendary Modified Driver who died in a crash at Martinsville Speedway. Everybody in Martinsville knew who Richie Evans was and remembers that event, but I doubt very many people outside of Martinsville or those that follow Modified racing have ever heard of him. Inside of the US, everybody knew who Dale Earnhardt was and remembers that event, but I doubt that many people outside of the US had ever heard of Dale Earnhardt. Outside of the US, everybody knew who Ayrton Senna was and remembers that event. I remember all 3.....All the best in their class,and all gone too young. I just have loved racing for years, I can think of hundreds of winning racers, but those three exemplify a unique style of winning. I can also think of many dead racers, who loved the sport. That said Ayrton Senna had a special place in the hearts of so many, and that legend is still alive everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 My comment had nothing to do with what or how much either drove. Both acheived a level that very few ever attain in there careers. Dale Earnhardt was not 'the person' Aarton Senna was prior to his death and never will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuzzed Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Which is exactly why comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges, like Bill said. And why would one not be able to compare apples and oranges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadillacPat Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Gotta remember too, that at the time Senna was probably one of the 5 most famous people on the entire planet. Well, I've never heard of the guy. I honestly think in 1994 that John Bobitt. Tanya Harding, Michael Jackson, Anna Nicole Smith, and Pope John Paul II would be at the top of that list. Senna's grave attracts more visitors a year than the graves of John F Kennedy, Marilyn Monroe and Elvis Presley combined. I seriously doubt this. Outside of the US, everybody knew who Ayrton Senna was and remembers that event. Everybody?? Everybody?? CadillacPat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjordan2 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) Pat, just because you're unfamiliar with the subject doesn't mean that Brett's assertions aren't accurate. Watch the "Senna" documentary film and you might learn a few things. For example, regarding Senna's funeral (Wikipedia, with reference citations): An estimated three million people flocked to the streets of Senna's hometown of São Paulo to offer him their salute. This is widely accepted as the largest recorded gathering of mourners in modern times.[106] Over 200,000 people filed past as his body lay in state at the Legislative Assembly building in Ibirapuera Park. After the public viewing, a 21-gun salute was fired by the 2nd Artillery Brigade and seven Brazilian Air Force jets flew in a diamond formation as the funeral procession made its way to Morumbi Cemetery. Many prominent motor racing figures attended Senna's state funeral, such as team managers Ken Tyrrell, Peter Collins, Ron Dennis, and Frank Williams, and driver Jackie Stewart. The pallbearers included drivers Gerhard Berger, Michele Alboreto, Alain Prost, Thierry Boutsen, Damon Hill, Rubens Barrichello, Roberto Moreno, Derek Warwick, Mauricio Gugelmin, Hans Stuck, Johnny Herbert, Pedro Lamy, Maurizio Sala, Raul Boesel, Emerson Fittipaldi, Wilson Fittipaldi, and Christian Fittipaldi. Neither Sid Watkins nor Jo Ramírez, the McLaren team coordinator, could bear to attend because they were so grief-stricken. Sure, NASCAR and NFL football are big-time sports here, but they're almost mysteries to the rest of the world, who are into other sports -- like the world's most popular sport by far, professional soccer, which can't draw large audiences here. This is all well-known, but the comparison should be drawn. Edited May 7, 2013 by sjordan2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadillacPat Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Sjordan I understand your strong feelings for the subject but when you quote terms like "estimated 3 million" and "widely accepted", everything gets real iffy. I'll give it a big deal in South America 20 years ago, but worldwide or one of the 5 most famous people, I can't do. CadillacPat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
935k3 Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 Pat why don't you just leave this thris alone and respect the people who do care. And just because you didn't know anything about him doesn't mean he was not famous. If Bobbit is on your list you spend too much time reading tabloid trash. By the way your comments are not funny and you are not the expert on everything. I think this board would be a nicer place without your presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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