Ace-Garageguy Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 (edited) PJ is simply a rude, pig-greedy moron, and there are others out there. But NOBODY holds a gun to anyone's head to make them buy from these jerks. Learn to comparison-shop on the eeb and you can find ANYTHING, cheap, with a little effort. Edited May 25, 2013 by Ace-Garageguy
Maindrian Pace Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 The good thing about P-J is that when you see how much he wants for common parts, you either buy the whole kit from another seller for a few bucks more, or you fire off an order to the Modelhaus or one of the other good casters in the biz. Then you thank ol' Peej for bringing you back to your senses and making you do the right thing. -MJS
Tom Geiger Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 (edited) Guys, for all the hoopla in this thread, I decided to look a bit closer and see if there is a business model there... He has over 5840 items listed in his eBay Store. Of that 2372 are model related. And he's sold 256 items since February. That includes those $14.99 tail lights as well as kits like the Monogram Dodge Ramcharger for $119.99 and the Matilda Ford van for $149.99. He has a store, so his listings go for 30 days and can be on an automatic 'relist until sold'. With a store you can get anywhere from 150-2500 free listings per month, depending on the store type. So I'm not going to try to figure out his sell through or eBay costs. HIs feedback is only 5 negs in the past year with 806 positives. None of the negs are related to the pricing of his items. So people seemed okay with what they purchased. The negs and the one neutral weren't even model related. The only one was from some guy who thought he was getting a full size roll bar for his truck, although PJ states over and over in his ads that the parts are for model cars not real cars. Two were related to the packages smelling like smoke, although he states in his ads that his items come from a "smoker friendly household". So in the end he really didn't deserve those negs. Whether we agree with his pricing or not, he seems to have found a business model that works. Something to be learned there boys... Edited May 26, 2013 by Tom Geiger
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 (edited) Ol' PJ also has close to 6000 current listings, which is 118 LONG pages, which is a lot of free advertising on e-bay's dime, and he constantly whines about "why should e-bay make money on me?". Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe 6000 listings idling JUST DRIVES UP LISTING COSTS FOR EVERYONE ELSE. If he paid for his OWN server to list all the stuff, some of the ridiculous prices might seem more realistic. Edited May 26, 2013 by Ace-Garageguy
KingSix Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 Getting back into the hobby in the past few weeks and seeing how much things have changed. I was checking out eBay , pricing kits and whatnot and found this seller.http://www.ebay.com/usr/pj-toys . This guy is unboxing OOP kits and selling the parts individually/ Now before anyone corrects me , I know they are his to do with as he pleases .. but I'd like feedback from other builders on how they feel about this selling tactic ..
Harry P. Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 If you can make money doing it... more power to ya! Buyer beware, as they say. If someone is dumb enough to fall for it, they deserve to be taken for a ride.
KingSix Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 I restore classic cars for a living. We have a saying, "there's an a$$ for every seat" checking out this guys feedback .. he sounds like a real winner
jeffs396 Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 That seller is the butt of many jokes around here Dan! He sure does have some desirable kits though (especially vintage pickups), I wonder where he procured them?
Harry P. Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 99.5% positive feedback. I'd say the guy knows what he's doing... and it's working. That seller is the butt of many jokes around here Dan! And he's laughing all the way to the bank...
KingSix Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 the 5 negative feedbacks he has are enough to make me want to steer clear of him. I know what you mean about the vintage pickup kits he's got.. I'd love to get a few of them .. I've been wanting a Revell "Ice Patrol" forever
ERIK88 Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 that is one dirty seller with no morals or ethics. People need to be treated better than that. feel sorry for those buying from him.
ERIK88 Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) there are many more good sellers on ebay than types like him. Edited September 22, 2013 by ERIK88
Harry P. Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 that is one dirty seller with no morals or ethics. What do you base that evaluation on? I'm curious. I don't know the guy, never heard of him... but since 2004 he has almost 800 positive feedbacks and 5 negatives. I don't get it. How is he a guy with no morals or ethics?
ERIK88 Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) What do you base that evaluation on? I'm curious. I don't know the guy, never heard of him... but since 2004 he has almost 800 positive feedbacks and 5 negatives. I don't get it. How is he a guy with no morals or ethics? ripping people off, selling for individual parts at prices that are insane. Not offering fair prices, but unfortunately there are people who still buy. By reading his negative reviews, and anyone that conducts dirty business like that, should give you a clue about his character. Do you believe that a current production model part is worth $20? , lets say a front bumper?. Edited September 22, 2013 by ERIK88
ERIK88 Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) I also have the right to evaluate him that way, with or without actual evidence to back it up, this is not a topic that requires actual data or evidence to one's opinion. Edited September 22, 2013 by ERIK88
Harry P. Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 I also have the right to evaluate him that way, with or without actual evidence to back it up You form an opinion of the guy without any actual evidence? And you think that's legitimate?
Harry P. Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 ripping people off, selling for individual parts at prices that are insane. Not offering fair prices, So if he offers up parts for sale at prices that are "insane," who is the idiot? The seller... or the buyer? A seller is under no obligation to offer "fair" prices. He has every right to sell whatever he wants to sell for whatever price he wants to sell it for. It's up to the buyer to decide whether or not it's a good deal, and whether or not to buy. As far as I know, nobody was ever forced to buy anything from him.
ERIK88 Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 [quote name= The seller... or the buyer? A seller is under no obligation to offer "fair" prices. He has right to sell whatever he wants to sell for whatever price he wants to sell it for. It's up to the buyer to decide whether or not it's a good deal, and whether or not to buy. As far as I know, nobody was ever forced to buy anything from him.
ERIK88 Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 Ur right man. I'm just furious that there are people out there that are evil like that man. If I sold stuff online I would give fair prices, I would not try to rip people off. That's just not right man, sure no one has and obligation to buy from him, but how dare him feel he can do that to people?. I mean are people not aware? Are they in there right state of mind ?. How many of those 800 buyers do you think probably suffer some kind of mental issue? I kno many builders who are not mentally stable who would buy a part not caring of price because they have an obsession disorder or some type of mental problem. Idk I'm just putting it out there...
JunkPile Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) WOW! Really? Edited September 22, 2013 by JunkPile
Harry P. Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 That's just not right man, sure no one has and obligation to buy from him, but how dare him feel he can do that to people? Do what to people??? Who is forcing anyone to buy from him??? I don't think you understand how the free market works. A seller can sell anything for any price he wants to sell it for. It's up to the buyer to decide whether or not to buy. Whether the seller sells anything is up to the buyer, not the seller. Blame the people who buy the overpriced stuff, not the seller. They are the ones who are ripping themselves off.
KingSix Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 Say what you want about free market and such. I still say it's a vicious tactic .. but you are right in saying the only people to blame are the ones that buy them. Sad state of affairs at any rate
ERIK88 Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) Yea ur right, I guess I'm just the good guy here trying to be reasonable and thinking in a way I would conduct business. Let more of these sellers be around since people don't seem to have a problem paying high prices lol. Edited September 22, 2013 by ERIK88
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