Deuce kit with modern suspension?

[Jantrix]

Isn't there a 1/25 '32 Ford kit with modern independant suspension? I gots me an idear.

[Ace-Garageguy]

I can't recall one right off hand. The AMT Phantom Vickie has independent front suspension on a subframe that will easily swap into anything though (rear suspension is generic Mustang solid axle). The AMT streetrod-version of the '34 Ford 5-window has full independent suspension that should be a fairly straightforward swap as well.

The underscale Revell '34 3-window also has 4-wheel independent suspension that could be made to work under a '32. It was originally found under the correctly-scaled Revell Buttera "T" and derivatives, which is why it's on the small side...a T is a very small car. The underscale '34 that Revell produced to accommodate the T tube-frame and suspension is pretty much worthless for anything but the chassis, so it makes a good donor if you can find one cheap enough.

Edited February 27, 2014 by Ace-Garageguy

[Jantrix]

Thanks Bill, the AMT Phantom Vicky, looks like it will suit my needs. Not to mention there's a lot of great parts there, aside from that silly top.

Anyone know how well a revell body would drop over the frame, without the fenders?

[Ace-Garageguy]

Very well indeed. The AMT Phantom Vickie designers made a well-scaled version of a '32 repop frame, and it's dimensionally very close to Revell's version...as it should be if everybody in both companies measured and divided right.

[Jantrix]

Thanks Bill. As always your expertise is appreciated.

[thatz4u]

The Revell 32 Sedan body will fit & looks good too

[Jantrix]

Thanks Al. I'm gonna have to locate one of these. I'm thinking about a fenderless, chopped, channeled three window, with a pro-touring/drift theme. The suspension, and drivetrain would work well for this.

[Ace-Garageguy]

Cool project, definitely. I like the idea of mixing genres too, with the hot-rod, pro-touring and drift aspects working together to make something very unusual. Great potential.

[Art Anderson]

Revell's Buttera T kits were tooled in the early-mid 1970's. The IRS in those kits is Jaguar E-type, which is what John Buttera used to create his '26 T street rod. As for dimensions, yes the chassis length was Model T based, and thus were pretty close to the standard 100" wheelbase of the Model T.

Just to flesh this out a bit, Ford cars got successively longer after the demise of Model T production in 1927: 1928-31 Model A Fords had a 102" wheelbase, the '32 Ford went to 106", while the 1934-40 Ford rolled on 112". As for the stock tread width, that never changed on Ford cars from 1903-48: 56".

With that in mind, it's quite possible to adapt most suspension setups, either stock or aftermarket, from any accurately scaled 1/25 scale kit of a Ford car from Model T through 1948 and have the wheels fit within the fenders, of course understanding that the widest tire Ford ever used on a stock production car in the years prior to the 1949 model year was 6 inches (6:00-16 tires were standard at Ford from 1936-48). Only the chassis/body/wheelbase lengths changed.

Art

[blunc]

Mr. Anderson, you are a treasure trove of information.

I hope you live at least as long as I do.

[Jantrix]

Thanks for the info guys. Much appreciated.