Cato Posted March 29, 2014 Author Share Posted March 29, 2014 Do you like me now?? http:// Shocks and levers just hanging for now. Finishes used; gloss and satin blacks, Smoke, VHT (1:1) header paint, pencil graphite, art oil (fluid stains at the drain and cover plate). http:// On to the many linkages and clevises for the brake actuators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocherphile Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 You do know it was customary for the owner to add a little pizazz to the car by the embalm being painted red back ground w/silver RR! Just for the guy who wants to make it his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Looking good, man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 More junk hanging off it now-pics when I regain sanity... Can see I'll need 10 hands to hang it on the chassis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 More junk hanging off it now-pics when I regain sanity... Can see I'll need 10 hands to hang it on the chassis. Believe me... it all works out in the end. Lots of moving parts–the RR braking system is very complex... sometimes you wish you had three hands, at least... but it all comes together eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) See what I mean?? This is all magically supposed to tuck into the chassis and connect to a jillion things at once: http:// Happy Rick?? It's dull red and graphite-not a gloss out of bottle and silver paint. May not be popular but I'm trying for the patina of an aged restoration with use. And some 'scale effect' which the AC and Armor guys do beautifully but I'm struggling with. I'm really just trying to keep it subtle and understated. Oh and the wheel backing plates do NOT have a ton of positive camber-they're perfectly upright. It's my 35mm lens bending 'em: http:// Next in process; MMC's beautiful (and $$) PE leafspring set. Includes the shackles and curled end leaves. When done, I have to hang the rear and install in chassis hangers. Wish me luck: http:// http:// Edited March 30, 2014 by Cato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocherphile Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) Out freaking standing, rearend looks just da bomb dude....(get that stuff from the grands). Oh my, leaf spring kit $$$$$$$, but well worth for the added support, and speaking of support, noticed that spiffy little item holding the rearend, I know what those are and you will be so glad you sprung for a set, especially when you need to turn everything toppsy turffy. Looking really good and prgressing all the time, I am still sanding, squaring and drilling on the FIAT frame! But I am still working @ it too. Here is a tip on the leaf springs, if you are going to paint, they are made of SS and need a bit of rough up before a coat of any paint is added, green scotch pad, hit them a lick or two, use a good auto primer and spray away, then again, you may opt for a real leather wrap.....adds tons to the look, I do not like the rubber deals that comes with the kit. Just a thought.......keep'em coming. Your friend........ Edited March 30, 2014 by Pocherphile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 Thanks pal. Yes the work stand has paid for itself already and I just got the rear on it. Was going to make them because they're simple enough but I traded the $$ for the time saved. I'm racing the clock and grim reaper... You'll hate me but I'll probably leave the springs natural SS. I just plain love 'em. Fabbing leather wraps is out of my skill set. Thanks to you, I know I now have adequate support for this heffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocherphile Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 First and foremost..........I speak LIFE, death shall not have dominion over you, LIFE, either here or in eternity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocherphile Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 No, I hate no man, and sure not someone who has been as good a person as I have seen in you friend. Life is too short to have hate in your heart for any man! Yes the leather wraps are a tough option to make, but they can be done. I fully understand about not painting, they are jewels when finished, and yes, most who opt for this add on do leave them in their natural state. Modeling is one of those areas where you as the builder have the ability to do it just like ole Franky said, I did it my way. Your Friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 As for you-----------more FIAT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 MAYDAY!!!!!! Attention Pocher crazies! Need your help. After installing the previously finished gas (OK petrol Rick) tank into the chassis and patting myself on the head, I went to install the filler tube. Where's the freakin tube???!! It's been my habit that when subassemblies get finished to paint, I either wrap or store them in plastic bags. Then take them out when time to put in place. Just like the tank and now the axle. After turning the joint upside down, I can't find it. A quick inventory shows everything else I finished safely stored. How can I make another? I don't have any sprue that diameter and I don't even know if I could get that tight a bend if I did. Same with metal tube. I do have styrene tube in .250" OD but it's about 1/16" shy. Any thoughts appreciated. If I don't answer by tomorrow, I've slashed my wrists... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocherphile Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Well lets not get too crazy.......when I need something like a tube, I 1st look around the house and sure enough once in a blue moon I will find some item that suits the bill. Or go to local HS, that is if one is still in your neck of the woods, the closest one to me is a hour drive away.......find the size you need in Evergreen shapes, get a pan of water to boiling and dip that sucker in for a few seconds, pull out and gently bend to the shape/curve you need, then cut the tube to fit........now that was not too bad was it. You may to dip more than once. One time I needed a filler tube f/a F1 car, used a plstic tube that pencil lead came in, cut it at 2 angles and turned out better than the one that was lost to the kit. So see, we all let them escape sometime. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 Yeah, been thinking along those lines, thick wiring, pen and markers bodies, similar objects. Hunt will go on while while I do science experiments. Ironic-I haven't lost a single 2mm nut, 00-90 or any tiny hardware! I remember that old saying-'What doesn't kill you, pisses you off!'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 Problem (largely) solved. By sheer luck I found a hunk of sprue like a tree trunk originally used to hold the two frame rails together. I took the trunk box and rear fender out and mocked them in place. Then, using a Dremel drum, I got the sprue to a near round cross section, eyeballed the fit and marked for the bend. A minute over the stove flame, a quick bend and then cool down. Then I guessed at an approximate length for the free end and cut to size. Made a seat for the steel gas cap and it's not half bad. A little Hull red and I think it'll pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocherphile Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 See there, no need for a trip to the nut ward after all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Glad it worked out for you friend. Rick PS:Now, show us a photo.................? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted April 1, 2014 Author Share Posted April 1, 2014 K-tomorrow....but it's just ugly black plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted April 1, 2014 Author Share Posted April 1, 2014 As promised the new gas fill pipe: http:// The Model Motorcars stainless rear leaf spring mocked-together. There are 9 leaves and each square is one inch. They're about as long as some 1/25 models: http:// Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjordan2 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Will you wrap the springs in cord? That was common among other cars of the era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted April 1, 2014 Author Share Posted April 1, 2014 Probably not Skip. I know I'm getting away from accuracy but as I told Rick, I'm nuts about the stainless springs and it's a detail I'd like to see over time. No leather or shrink tube gators as Marvin sends with the springs. I'm just now using Mother's polish on them (using gloves) to get the oils off and preserve them. Next I'll tie them with floss and then add the shackles and 00-90 nuts to make them a unit. All aiming to get them onto the axle and then the chassis-exciting big construction instead of prep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Rolls didn't use wrapping on the springs, they were completely sheathed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted April 1, 2014 Author Share Posted April 1, 2014 BEAUTIFUL shot Harry. Will you take my first-born for your references?? That ham shows ribbing-I thought the pumpkin was smooth cast-iron, and I finished it as such. Is that a P II?? Maybe talc for the fine dust seen here?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted April 4, 2014 Author Share Posted April 4, 2014 Have been working steadily even though not posting. I'll have better pictures when I can actually spread stuff out, like on the kitchen island. I'm cramped badly in here. TIP: Do not work when you're tired. You misplace things and no matter how many times you consult reference, you can assemble things wrong or in the wrong order. Case in point; showing the PE leaf spring set. Started 3 days ago thinking I'd have the rear hung in the chassis that day. Uh-uh. VERY tedious separating the PE parts from their fret. This stuff is stainless and .021" thick. Not like comes in a detail set for smaller cars. Nine leaves per side,four different sizes of shackles, 23 retainers and 46, 2mm, 00-90 (across the flat) nuts. Here's MMC's instruction: http:// Holding the tiny parts in place is best with a hemostat; they all want to slide around on each other: http:// Here's what it's supposed to look like. Those 00-90 threads are so thin, you have to gently crush them for the nuts to actually bite and thread. Then CA them when in place. In fact, I decided to CA the shackles to the leaves to prevent movement: http:// OK so you do all that and you're ready to bolt them to the axle with 4 U clamps and nuts. Uh-oh......remember being tired?? In my stupor, I apparently mounted the top leaf (with the curls for hanging) up-side-freakin' down on one spring. Go to sleep, get up and disassemble almost 2 hours worth of work, to invert the leaf correctly. THEN, go to mount it onto the spring hangers on the axle only to discover that Pocher's spacing is narrower than MMC's for the u-clamps. An hour with a hot wire to 'slot' the 2 rearmost holes and get the bolts in. I HATE working on finished parts, especially with heat. But I got away with no damage. Here's it is all nicey nicey, and ready to go into the chassis. I'm hoping that goes better today: http:// Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Those springs look fantastic. No wonder you want to show them off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 Thanks but all the credit goes to Marvin and his boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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