Pocherphile Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I would love to see how you Pocher guys would transfer your experience to 1/16 kits like the Rolls Phantom II Continental and the Mercedes 540K. I do have put back to use the Entex Benz 1/16th to model a Blue Goose........HG's ride before the US Army liberated it back to the USA as a war prize.............. Hey look what I brung back in my duffle bag............... Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share Posted March 26, 2014 And here's the near complete radiator; Remember, I said a driven, older restoration-not a museum piece. It will leak a little (English right??) and ooze grease and oil a bit. Straight from the Crewe workshop; No bug spatters like the GT-40 however... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Beautiful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share Posted March 26, 2014 Beautiful! I already got Rick in action; enough incentive to push you over I hope?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjordan2 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Do the radiator shutters work? (manually, of course) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share Posted March 26, 2014 No Skip-they lock into place in slots. And you wouldn't want anyone playing with them when done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjordan2 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I would love to see how you Pocher guys would transfer your experience to 1/16 kits like the Rolls Phantom II Continental and the Mercedes 540K. My thought was that transferring your Pocher experience to the 1/16 versions could help non-Pocher builders add incredible details to their 1/16 builds, from your examples. For people like me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share Posted March 26, 2014 For people like me. Why do you place yourself in some different category? I am surely in no superior building category than you. Your Bentley, built 20 years ago stands right up to the best levels seen here daily. And you obviously have the ability to discern levels of detail in references that many easily miss. If you can see 'em, you can reproduce 'em. I understand and for the most part agree with your point about translating details down to 1/16. But having done both, I can tell you it doesn't always or easily translate-unless you're a machinist or caster like Mark Jones for instance (there are others here). Harry and Teresi obviously live on both sides of that street too. Working twice the size of 1/16 allows easier high levels of detail and usually more of them. But my Rolls may not be chock full of non-stock details so therefore the equivalent of a really good 1/16. I'm just really hoping for as immaculate, square of a build as I can achieve. I hope I said clearly what I'm thinking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocherphile Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) My thought was that transferring your Pocher experience to the 1/16 versions could help non-Pocher builders add incredible details to their 1/16 builds, from your examples. For people like me. You have the right idea Skip, any kit no matter what scale can always benefit from added details and yes I also agree the bigger the kit the better. Now we all agree 1/8th is a monster, but other kits too can be done to very high standards. I model 1/12th F1 and you would be amazed @ what can be done w/them, so with that said, 1/16th lends itself well to the detailer as well. Rick Edited March 26, 2014 by Pocherphile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocherphile Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Ah, Cato has learned the correct way to adjust for the gap between cowl/hood/radiator........granted this only takes care of a small gap, but after you adjust with the said areas and just need a scouch to finish, this trick is the ticket............ def f/city boys: scouch is a tad......... Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocherphile Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) Do the radiator shutters work? (manually, of course) They do not as they come in the kit, but years ago I saw a Rolls this guy had spent years working on, now the how I have no idea, but he could take a pencil.......rubber end and push something under the dash and the shutters would open and shut............and this same guy pretty much replaced the complete frame w/hand bucked brass.......and again, not to my understanding, he would take that same pencil and when pressure was applied to the brakes, they worked just like the real deal......now remember, I said he engineered the complete frame from brass and used drawings from RR plus repair manuals. This was to me the most complete working Pocher Rolls I have ever seen. I did mention this fella was a engineer, thats the only person I have ever seen make the brake system work on one of these.......then again, he pretty much made everything work on this little marvel. So as has been pointed out, in 1/8th scale, a person has the size to make whatever he wishes to function, if he has the knows how. Rick I saw this car @ the Nurnberg Toy Fair 1978 and it was the most looked @ thing there. Last I remember, this guy was about to start work on a Benz! Edited March 27, 2014 by Pocherphile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 Boy am I gonna disappoint everybody................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f1ford48 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 you guys are lucky to have these Pochers-imagine scratch building ALL of these details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Boy am I gonna disappoint everybody................... Are you kidding? Your attention to detail makes my partially built Sedanca look like it was built by a slacker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 Don't set me up Harry! I know you'll pull some magic out of your a$$ and knock us dead. And I think Rick is in the wings to shade us both... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I dunno about that. From what I've seen on this thread, you can wrangle a Pocher with the best of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share Posted March 28, 2014 Tonight's episode; 'Pain in My Rear!' Sinks, seams and pits: http:// http:// Relief is on the way!: http:// No more lumps in the ham : http:// Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share Posted March 28, 2014 I dunno about that. From what I've seen on this thread, you can wrangle a Pocher with the best of us. Uhh-I was warming up for 27 years on that little 1:1 project, remember? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Ok, I have to ask... do you actually work on that cutting surface or is it just for show? It's so pristine and clean, it looks like it's never been used! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share Posted March 28, 2014 Dude-it's all I got! But it's great to cut on without worry. Like Rick, I gotta be anal about sanding, grinding and then the vacuum. It's on a 30 x 42, 60 year old drafting table. The other two tables I've got are covered with sprue parts-looks like an autopsy in progress! And I've got a 500 sq / ft basement which would cost $30K to finish as a shop and sewing area...shoot me. Do we have a 'crying' icon?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanesteele240 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Man this is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocherphile Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 You keep saying this and that about the lack of ability, ability looks pretty good too me. Keep it coming, I just have to ask......what does the Green Hornet think about your skills............. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share Posted March 28, 2014 I just have to ask......what does the Green Hornet think about your skills............. Rick Nowhere to be seen when there's work to be done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David G. Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I think you're doing great! Please keep posting, I enjoy following your progress. David G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share Posted March 28, 2014 Thanks for the kind words David and Gary. I am totally captured by this project and have logged the hours just for fun since opening the box. I'm just shocked and embarrassed how little I've accomplished vs the hours put in. Part of the issue is the fact that the Pocher 'manual' is little more than a 'schematic' of (tiny) exploded line drawings with virtually no instructional text. Basically, a parts locator that's hard to read-even enlarged! I'll post a page or two soon for those who might consider owning one. Getting the Koo CD was the smartest thing I've done with the whole build. I'm realizing I'm doing the same kind of planning and prep (and spending!) as I did on my 1:1. Hoping I do justice to the really nice parts I have to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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