A young Tim Boyd!?

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Tom, please make sure that Mr. Cura knows how much a lot of us appreciate how much he has done putting together that web site. Obviously I'm putting it good (??) use.

Scott

Yes, please do. I have enjoyed looking back at the old magazines.

[1972coronet]

For those of you who follow this sort of stuff (I always did), for a while in the mid-;ate 1960's Joe Oldham was edtior of Car Model. Yes, that Joe Oldham. The one that went on to author many muscle car era articles for the east coast car magazines, and then much later was edtior for Popular Mechanics for the better part of two decades during which it became a huge (in terms of circulation) heavyweight in the magazine world. He is now retired by pens a column in Hemmings Muscle Machines and wrote a cool book a couple of years back about his memories (including a bunch of street racing in NYC) of the muscle car era.

Joe Oldham is very much around the fledgling social media outlets ; here's the direct link to his facebook page : https://www.facebook.com/joe.oldham.92?ref=ts&fref=ts

Note that Martyn Schorr is around as well : https://www.facebook.com/MartynSchorr?hc_location=timeline

I have Martyn's excellent book , Motion Performance : Tales of a Muscle Car Builder . Highly recommended !

[1972coronet]

Tim Boyd "[...]I was a stereo/rock geek back then. My "system" was based around an Olsen AM/FMS receiver and two Utah floor speakers (for those of you not familiar with these brands...let's just say they were known for their volume, not their quality of sound...!)

"When I started working at Ford in 1978 after graduating college, my first expenditure was a set of JBL4311BX studio monitors - the speakers that were supposedly used in the studios where the best rock bands mixed their albums. I still have those bad boys today, some 36 years later, in my family room downstairs. They seldom get asked to jam these days, but when the do, they still kick it out just like the day I bought them."

Ann Arbor , huh ? You must be familiar with these guys :

( R.I.P. , Dave Alexander , 1947-1975 ; R.I.P. Ron Asheton , 1948-2009 ; R.I.P. Scott Asheton , 1949-2014 )

And these darlings of the Grande Ballroom :

( R.I.P. , Rob Tyner 1946-1991 ; R.I.P. , Fred "Sonic" Smith , 1948-1994 ; R.I.P. , Michael Davis , 1943-2011 )

[blunc]

What ever became of Richard Carroll? He was who the Pro category was started around, at the ICMA model contests, in the early 70's. He isn't in the International Model Car Builders Museum, Hall of Fame. IMO, he's more deserving a spot, than many who are.

I get the general impression (based on various sources) that Richard Carroll doesn't really care to have anything to do with the modeling community.

I too was fascinated with Mr. Carroll's creations and am a little saddened that he hasn't embraced the current hobby scene quite like some of the "well seasoned" builders we are fortunate enough to still have interaction with.

[tim boyd]

Ann Arbor , huh ? You must be familiar with these guys :

( R.I.P. , Dave Alexander , 1947-1975 ; R.I.P. Ron Asheton , 1948-2009 ; R.I.P. Scott Asheton , 1949-2014 )

And these darlings of the Grande Ballroom :

( R.I.P. , Rob Tyner 1946-1991 ; R.I.P. , Fred "Sonic" Smith , 1948-1994 ; R.I.P. , Michael Davis , 1943-2011 )

Yes...very familiar. In the late 1960's, Ann Arbor had "Free Concerts" each Sunday, first at Leslie (?) Park, between Miller and Huron Streets west of downtown, and later on in Gallup Park (an Island in the Huron River near Huron Parkway.

Both these groups, and others of their ilk ("SRC" was a terrific Ann Arbor group as well), were very controversial with parents of teenagers in Ann Arbor at the time, including mine. But I did manage to ride my bike to at least one or two of the free concerts when they were at Leslie Park. It's pretty vague but it may have been the MC5 (btw, John Sinclair's communist ramblings aside, "Ramblin' Rose and "Sister Anne" are two great cuts - the later having what may be the best opening riff of any song of the rock and roll era....)

I remember when the Stooges album with " I wanna be your dog" and "It's 1969" came out. I thought the music was awful. Shows you how much I know...I did go to a concert at a local Ann Arbor bar that honored Ron Asheton after his death, and my former boss J Mays (the Ford Group VP of Design) sat next to Scott Asheton on one of his frequent Detroit-London trips and told me he was a really nice guy....

TIM .

Edited July 5, 2014 by tim boyd

[tim boyd]

I get the general impression (based on various sources) that Richard Carroll doesn't really care to have anything to do with the modeling community.

I too was fascinated with Mr. Carroll's creations and am a little saddened that he hasn't embraced the current hobby scene quite like some of the "well seasoned" builders we are fortunate enough to still have interaction with.

We did manage to get Richard to one of the earlier NNL Nationals IIRC, to honor him and his work when their was an NNL Hall of Fame award each year.

It was pretty impressive to see all his creations together in one setting. Richard, in my view, was more of an "artist" than a modeler. His creations were nothing less than contemporary art, using 1/25th scale car design as a medium.

Edited July 5, 2014 by tim boyd

[tim boyd]

What ever became of Richard Carroll? He was who the Pro category was started around, at the ICMA model contests, in the early 70's. He isn't in the International Model Car Builders Museum, Hall of Fame. IMO, he's more deserving a spot, than many who are.

Richard Carroll was added to the International Model Car Builder's Museum under their new "Historic Famers" category meant to "recognize vintage builders for their great contributions to the advancement of our hobby". You can read about this in Model Cars #187, pages 10-11. Denny Johnson, Jim and Ray Yonts, Robert A. Smith, ,Richard Mike Johnson, Bob Nordberg, and Jerry Svikek were similarly honored. TB

[1972coronet]

Yes...very familiar. In the late 1960's, Ann Arbor had "Free Concerts" each Sunday, first at Leslie (?) Park, between Miller and Huron Streets west of downtown, and later on in Gallup Park (an Island in the Huron River near Huron Parkway.

Both these groups, and others of their ilk ("SRC" was a terrific Ann Arbor group as well), were very controversial with parents of teenagers in Ann Arbor at the time, including mine. But I did manage to ride my bike to at least one or two of the free concerts when they were at Leslie Park. It's pretty vague but it may have been the MC5 (btw, John Sinclair's communist ramblings aside, "Ramblin' Rose and "Sister Anne" are two great cuts - the later having what may be the best opening riff of any song of the rock and roll era....)

I remember when the Stooges album with " I wanna be your dog" and "It's 1969" came out. I thought the music was awful. Shows you how much I know...I did go to a concert at a local Ann Arbor bar that honored Ron Asheton after his death, and my former boss J Mays (the Ford Group VP of Design) sat next to Scott Asheton on one of his frequent Detroit-London trips and told me he was a really nice guy....

TIM .

SRC ! (Scott Richardson _ _ ? ) ...embarrassed that I can't recall that acronym right now ( ) .

I did some art work for Michael Davis ( MC5's bassist ) a few years ago . He hooked me up with a T-shirt , some stickers (one of which is placed-on the backlite of my '72 Coronet) , and some buttons ; a hand-written post card , too ! He passed away a few months later ( ) . I had no idea that he'd fallen ill ...

First Stooges album I heard was 1973's Raw Power . That was in late 1985 ; a friend had it on vinyl , original-issue (he had tons of rare records , including the Velvet Underground & Nico (1966) , with the peel-off banana on its cover !!) .

One of the days I met my friend for our walk to school , I heard the harangue by J.C. Crawford : "Brothers and sisters , let me see a sea of hands out there !! ..." , and I thought that my friend was listening to some rogue Motown group . The music kicked my 15 year old butt straight-across the room !! It wasn't until I picked-up the album's sleeve that I realised that the MC5 were Caucasian !

Scott Asheton was a nice guy ! He's another one that I kept in contact with (via MySpace originally , then Facebook) . He loved my artwork ! We also talked about cars and dragsters and racing !

So bummed when I found out about his passing ( ) .

Ron Asheton ... he was a feline lover like me ! Lots of pics of him and his kitties .

That's so cool that you got to see the best-of-the-best of the Detroit (and its 'surrounding' cities) bands !

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Richard Carroll was added to the International Model Car Builder's Museum under their new "Historic Famers" category meant to "recognize vintage builders for their great contributions to the advancement of our hobby". You can read about this in Model Cars #187, pages 10-11. Denny Johnson, Jim and Ray Yonts, Robert A. Smith, ,Richard Mike Johnson, Bob Nordberg, and Jerry Svikek were similarly honored. TB

Thank you for letting me/ us know this, since the museum website isn't very up to date. There is no link to the new category or any HOF honorees, listed past 2010.

[tim boyd]

SRC ! (Scott Richardson _ _ ? ) ...embarrassed that I can't recall that acronym right now ( ) .

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That's so cool that you got to see the best-of-the-best of the Detroit (and its 'surrounding' cities) bands !

John....SRC.... Scott Richards Case (may have been Richardson as you note) was later shortened to SRC...their "Milestones" album was as good as any rock album produced in that era.....TIM

PS - pretty amazing links you had there with these A2 based artists! tB

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[Danno]

Thank you for letting me/ us know this, since the museum website isn't very up to date. There is no link to the new category or any HOF honorees, listed past 2010.

The current MCM (July 2014, Issue# 187) has the entire list.

2011 - Ed Sexton & Randy Derr

2012 - Tom Lowe/John Greczula & Mark D. Jones

2013 - Ed Roth & Tom Woodruff

2014 - Dave Metzner & Rick Hanmore

2015 - Nominees for Industry Insider are George Barris or Darryl Starbird

2015 - Nominees for Builder/Writer are Bob Downie or Greg Nichols

And, they've added a new category called "Historic Hall of Famers" who include Robert A. "Smitty" Smith, Richard Mike Johnson, Jim and Ray Yonts, Richard Carroll, Denny Johnson, Bob Nordberg, and Jerry Svikek.

It is a worthy project and I'll refrain from any electioneering as I cast my ballot for Mr. Bubbletop, Darryl Starbird!!

Edited July 6, 2014 by Danno