and now you know what they.re really for

[Ace-Garageguy]

I was referring to car aero...the old guys into t buckets, 32 Fords, fifties cars. Etc aren't into aerodynamics.

Well, the first use of "aero" on the street was copy-copy the hot-rod guys who removed as much frontal-area as possible by chopping tops, and who slicked up bodies and noses for dry-lakes high speed runs. That's where aero REALLY matters.

The power required to overcome the aerodynamic drag is given by:

The power needed to push an object through a fluid increases as the cube of the velocity. A car cruising on a highway at 50 mph may require only 10 horsepower to overcome air drag, but that same car at 100 mph requires 80 hp. With a doubling of speed the drag (force) quadruples per the formula. Exerting four times the force over a fixed distance produces four times as much work. At twice the speed the work (resulting in displacement over a fixed distance) is done twice as fast. Since power is the rate of doing work, four times the work done in half the time requires EIGHT TIMES THE POWER.

Just like the "aero" stuff on most tuner cars is useless copy-cat my-car-looks-like-a-racecar stupidity, extreme top-chopping on the street was/is idiotic copycat stuff and spoiled practicality and outward visibility.

Edited September 7, 2014 by Ace-Garageguy

[Greg Myers]

Remember, most of the people here are into 30s-60s cars....a world from before aerodynamics...

Yep. 1969, just made it.

Edited September 7, 2014 by Greg Myers

[Ace-Garageguy]

Hmmmmm......

"By the early sixties, front air dams and rear spoilers were appearing on racing cars, and no one exploited the possibilities more than Jim Hall with his highly successful Chaparral racers. The 2B above shows the first fully functional use of front and rear spoilers and fender vents, all specifically to generate down force. They made the Chaparral essentially unbeatable in 1964 and 1965."

[Greg Myers]

But wait , there's more ,

[southpier]

so .... they're not "ricers" but "noodlers"?

(no offense intended guys - sit back down!)

[Guest]

so .... they're not "ricers" but "noodlers"?

(no offense intended guys - sit back down!)

LOL!

[Greg Myers]

[Ace-Garageguy]

I get it. Took a second or so...

[Ace-Garageguy]

Cross noodling and wings...

Edited September 7, 2014 by Ace-Garageguy

[Greg Myers]

I was referring to car aero...the old guys into t buckets, 32 Fords, fifties cars. Etc aren't into aerodynamics.

and they took their fenders off for what reason ? Tonneau covers ? Moon disks? chopped tops ?

[Harry P.]

Taking off the fenders also eliminated a bunch of unnecessary weight.

[Danno]

Well, the first use of "aero" on the street was copy-copy the hot-rod guys who removed as much frontal-area as possible by chopping tops, and who slicked up bodies and noses for dry-lakes high speed runs. That's where aero REALLY matters.

The power required to overcome the aerodynamic drag is given by:

The power needed to push an object through a fluid increases as the cube of the velocity. A car cruising on a highway at 50 mph may require only 10 horsepower to overcome air drag, but that same car at 100 mph requires 80 hp. With a doubling of speed the drag (force) quadruples per the formula. Exerting four times the force over a fixed distance produces four times as much work. At twice the speed the work (resulting in displacement over a fixed distance) is done twice as fast. Since power is the rate of doing work, four times the work done in half the time requires EIGHT TIMES THE POWER.

Just like the "aero" stuff on most tuner cars is useless copy-cat my-car-looks-like-a-racecar stupidity, extreme top-chopping on the street was/is idiotic copycat stuff and spoiled practicality and outward visibility.

Gee, Ace. You're older than Robbie Hall. You're not supposed to know any of that stuff! Since you're one of the OLD guys who's into 30s-60s cars, you must be incapable of relevant thought.

[Lownslow]

the honda civic of trucks

[Harry P.]

the honda civic of trucks

I think that wing is there to smoothly deflect the airflow up and over the trailer, not to create downforce on the driving wheels of the tractor.

[Modelmartin]

I always thought the wings were for taller guys pushing the cars when they broke down. Some of them look like handles on shopping carts.

[Joe Handley]

I always thought the wings were for taller guys pushing the cars when they broke down. Some of them look like handles on shopping carts.

How tall are these guys then?!

Edited September 8, 2014 by Joe Handley

[High octane]

Gee the only wings that I'm really familiar with. are the ones at the Hooter's restaurants.

[Craig Irwin]

I always thought the wings were for taller guys pushing the cars when they broke down. Some of them look like handles on shopping carts.

Or handles on baby buggys.

[Ace-Garageguy]

Since you're one of the OLD guys who's into 30s-60s cars, you must be incapable of relevant thought.

Yeah, I hear a lot of that.

Edited September 8, 2014 by Ace-Garageguy

[Ace-Garageguy]

I prefer this application.

[Petetrucker07]

YES, that is the MOST practical use right there.

[unclescott58]

I'm sorry. I'm not always the quickest wit. Sometimes I need the joke explained to me. I assume this is meant as a joke of some sort? Or am I missing the point completely?

Scott

[Ace-Garageguy]

so .... they're not "ricers" but "noodlers"?

(no offense intended guys - sit back down!)

RE: I'm sorry. I'm not always the quickest wit. Sometimes I need the joke explained to me. I assume this is meant as a joke of some sort? Or am I missing the point completely?

Scott

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And the answer is...

Southpier was referring to the guys sitting on the wing eating noodles, as opposed to the usual connotation of "ricers", referring to Asian import tuner cars. And then,

from Wikipee:

"Noodling is fishing for catfish using only bare hands, practiced primarily in the southern United States. The noodler places his hand inside a discovered catfish hole. Many other names, such as catfisting, grabbling, graveling, hogging, cat-daddling, dogging, gurgling, tickling and stumping, are used in different regions for the same activity."

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Then, we get the completely out of context picture of a noodler from Greg.

Edited September 8, 2014 by Ace-Garageguy

[southpier]

I thought I was referring to the fellow on the right eating noodles ..... I'm not that deep, ya'll.

[Mike_G]

Someone needs to design a wing with a built-in bento box holder.