atomicholiday Posted February 18, 2015 Posted February 18, 2015 I'm with Scott on this one. Not sure I get it. Is it somehow building up pressure under there and that causes it to pop off? What exactly is making a popping sound when it comes off? Been thinking about getting one of these, but I'm not excited about screwing up a paint job.
southpier Posted February 18, 2015 Posted February 18, 2015 i'm not convinced paint stands screw up paint jobs
jbwelda Posted February 19, 2015 Posted February 19, 2015 >so if it gets taped, how does it turn? sigh. I think that was covered earlier. its magic. either that or the two parts taped together are independent of the rotating mechanism. somehow. probably magic. heres the thing: those who don't believe this are more than welcome to carry on. when your paint meets the dirt, be sure to post a breathless post on how could this ever happen??? OMG!!! or you could spend like about 30 seconds and either tape or tap the base so it won't happen to you. your choice. jb
Casey Posted February 19, 2015 Posted February 19, 2015 The inside of the top piece tapers in at the top. You can't really tell by looking. It's like two traffic cones stacked together, though one (the lower cone) has a slightly greater angle, so the top cone can never get wedged permanently in place. The two pieces can't lock together permanently, or you wouldn't be able to use the second rotating top piece, so I suspect Tamiya designed it assuming people would use it as it was supposed to be used, with the bottom of the base resting on a flat surface. When you lift the base off that surface and start tilting the stand, all bets are off and that Murphy guy is bound to show up just as the last droplet of paint settles.
Belugawrx Posted February 19, 2015 Posted February 19, 2015 Sounds like I'll save 30.$ and stick with this,.... Thanks for the review Cheers
Foxer Posted February 19, 2015 Posted February 19, 2015 yeah .. Tamiya stand is brilliant .. who paints the underside of anything. anyway ....
Nitrozilla Posted February 19, 2015 Posted February 19, 2015 Bob Taber, aka bobthehobbyguy, brought this to my attention because I just started using one on my Charlie Allen build. Here is what I posted: "Thanks for the link and the heads up Bob. You got me thinking about fixes, so I just took a good hard look at it and the first thing I did is drill a "relief hole" in the top of the base. It is possible that air trapped inside the connection might be the culprit. If it's assembled in a cool room it's already under pressure, then hotter outside air may cause it to expand and "pop" the top. My connection is pretty tight and I'm very happy with it so far. Another fix I did is put large head screws in the four wire mounting pins so the wire doesn't pop off when I'm pushing them together to mount a body. I'll repost this on that thread."
southpier Posted February 19, 2015 Posted February 19, 2015 >so if it gets taped, how does it turn? sigh. I think that was covered earlier. its magic. either that or the two parts taped together are independent of the rotating mechanism. somehow. probably magic. heres the thing: those who don't believe this are more than welcome to carry on. when your paint meets the dirt, be sure to post a breathless post on how could this ever happen??? OMG!!! or you could spend like about 30 seconds and either tape or tap the base so it won't happen to you. your choice. jb so let me get this straight: if you say a magic incantation, the parts will stay together?why didn't Tamiya include this in the instructions?
Ramfins59 Posted February 19, 2015 Posted February 19, 2015 If the top piece with the spreadable wires keeps coming off, or falling off of the swiveling base piece (which mine never has yet), why can't you just glue the 2 pieces together??? I've never had to turn my stand upside down or drastically sideways to paint the rocker panels, fender edges or under headlight or taillight "overhangs". I just hold the stand with the model body on it a little higher and spray away. I'm sure to wear a rubber glove so I don't paint my hand and turn the swivel base with my fingers. Haven't had a problem with my Tamiya paint stand in 2 years. I love it. I used to use a bent wire clothes hanger and would have to tape the inside of the model body to the hanger with masking tape to be sure it wouldn't fall off. I got tired of having to do that.
Drake69 Posted February 19, 2015 Posted February 19, 2015 If the top piece with the spreadable wires keeps coming off, or falling off of the swiveling base piece (which mine never has yet), why can't you just glue the 2 pieces together??? I've never had to turn my stand upside down or drastically sideways to paint the rocker panels, fender edges or under headlight or taillight "overhangs". I just hold the stand with the model body on it a little higher and spray away. I'm sure to wear a rubber glove so I don't paint my hand and turn the swivel base with my fingers. Haven't had a problem with my Tamiya paint stand in 2 years. I love it. I used to use a bent wire clothes hanger and would have to tape the inside of the model body to the hanger with masking tape to be sure it wouldn't fall off. I got tired of having to do that. It must be the newer ones. I've had my stand for at least 3~4 years and it never popped its base once. And I grab hold of that thing and whip it in all sorts of directions when I spray.
unclescott58 Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) As stated before, I bought one in the last year. And I have not had one problem with mine popping apart. I love my Tamiya paint stand. The darn thing is near perfect as far as I can tell. I also have not tried taking my stand apart in any way yet. Have not found a reason to do so. So maybe that's why mine stays together and works so well? Scott Edited February 20, 2015 by unclescott58
jbwelda Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 yes the magical incantation is something like "tape me together before I ruin your day". you will be crying it sooner or later. but don't mention someone warned ya. mine was never taken apart before it did its thing. one day at the worst possible time it just popped off, but I think I am repeating myself, again. and I repeated myself again because I couldn't believe a Tamiya product was doing this, and again it popped the top part off and my paint job ended up in the dirt. that is without any encouragement from me, wasn't even holding it upside down if I remember right. that's when I got out the masking tape and did that magic thing that lets the top part still spin whilst the bottom part is firmly attached to the rotating stand. now usually I think Tamiya is toppa top but in this case their paint stand needs a little re-engineering. its not a sin compared to what other companies get away with on a daily basis, but it is a bit of a disappointment, especially when you consider the merits of the stands (stands because your 30$ buys not one but TWO stands, one for bodies and one for small parts), and there are many from the different size holes staggered on the parts stand to the clips on the outside perimeter to the multi position adjustable arms on the body stand. and despite the need to do the little repair mentioned above, the stand is excellent for painting up into things and the rotating upper part is perfect when you don't want to raise dust moving whole stands around, you can just give the upper part a gentle push and it will rotate. anyway, whatever. be sure to let us/me know how it goes. jb
southpier Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) well ... after yet another sleepless night wondering, not if, but when, my paint stand would choose to separate itself, i am facing the ultimate conundrum: do i wrap the tape in a clockwise or counterclockwise direction? since i live in the northern hemisphere i am leaning towards the former. i had contemplated a drop of Micro Krystal Klear between the spindly parts but thought better since the rpms of the turntable may require retorquing the screw holding the swivel mechanism on the bottom unit. a previous modification was applied as soon as i took the units out of the box. i used super duty double sided 3M mounting tape to adhere a 5/8" galvanized washer to the bottom of each unit. i think the top part of the turntable, especially with a model clamped in, is a top-heavy beast. although i don't make turntables professionally, this unbalance could be a contributing force for its dis-assembly at operating speed. Edited February 22, 2015 by southpier
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