Snake45 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Just got the AMT Parts Pack pie crust and Goodyear Blue Streak slicks sets. Was a bit disappointed to see that they're identical in diameter and width to the old solid M&Hs we've been using for years. I thought they'd be a little wider. So what can we use these for? Super Stocks, Modified Productions, and Gassers, obviously. (And of course rods and street freaks.) I think they can squeak by on FXers and first-gen (AWB) funny cars, too. (At least on those the width is sorta hidden inside the body.) But I'm wondering about Altereds and dragsters. Are they wide enough for an AA/A of say 1964 to 1966? How about a junior fueler (injected small block Chevy) of the same time frame? What are y'all using these tires for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuzzed Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 (edited) One set will be used on my '34 Ford Altered pickup, the other on an old Revell '55 Chevy gasser. Edited September 17, 2014 by johnbuzzed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-409 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Well, actually if building 100% correct Stock or Super Stock Drag Car from the Early '60s, those tires wouldn't be legal. Cheater Slicks were allowed but they could not be larger than 7 inches and they had to have at least two thread strips on them. Many of those slicks did grew to 7½ inches after a few runs, so some of the drivers had to lift up the rear end on jack stands, put the 1st gear in so that the wheels are turning and use a file to file the tire back to 7 inches. In 1967 when Super Stock was first time it's own category with 10 classes from SS/A to SS/EA, they were allowed to run with any tire that could fit inside the stock wheelwells. But still Stockers had to run with the 7" tire with those two thread strips. I can't remember when the Stockers were allowed to start using 9" slicks, though. In Factory Experimental classes, Drag Slicks were allowed if they did fit inside the original and unmodified rear wheel wells and they could not exeed 10 inches. But honestly speaking, those are minimal things that doesn't matter that much. Even I have built old Stockers and Super Stockers with 9" Slicks because I think it's a really small mistake. But if you're going for 100% accuracy, then you might want to buy correct Slicks from Speed City Resins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 Well, actually if building 100% correct Stock or Super Stock Drag Car from the Early '60s, those tires wouldn't be legal. Cheater Slicks were allowed but they could not be larger than 7 inches and they had to have at least two thread strips on them. Many of those slicks did grew to 7½ inches after a few runs, so some of the drivers had to lift up the rear end on jack stands, put the 1st gear in so that the wheels are turning and use a file to file the tire back to 7 inches. In 1967 when Super Stock was first time it's own category with 10 classes from SS/A to SS/EA, they were allowed to run with any tire that could fit inside the stock wheelwells. But still Stockers had to run with the 7" tire with those two thread strips. I can't remember when the Stockers were allowed to start using 9" slicks, though. But honestly speaking, those are minimal things that doesn't matter that much. Even I have built old Stockers and Super Stockers with 9" Slicks because I think it's a really small mistake. But if you're going for 100% accuracy, then you might want to buy correct Slicks from Speed City Resins. I never said anything about Stock classes. These tires are obviously too wide for 7" cheaters for Stock. I'm interested in, are they too narrow for Altered and maybe some of the Comps and Dragsters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1930fordpickup Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Those slicks are cool Niko. Just go for the look Snake. If they look to wide to your eye do not use them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-409 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I never said anything about Stock classes. These tires are obviously too wide for 7" cheaters for Stock. I'm interested in, are they too narrow for Altered and maybe some of the Comps and Dragsters? Whoops, you're correct. Though, Super Stock was part of the Stock category until 1967, so for any of those cars the 9 inch slicks are not correct. After that they'll work fine as you said. I think those can be used in Dragsters and Altereds as well. In my Fiat 500 Altered I have 9" slicks and to me they look pretty good. Though I'm going to replace these in the picture with a pair of Cheater Slicks.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jantrix Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 They just look so perfect on a gasser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 Reason I asked is, I'd like to use them on a T altered I hope to build using all AMT Parts Packs parts (except the front tires). It'll be intended for sometime in the 1964-66 timeframe. Just wondering if they're wide enough for that. Gonna use another pair on another T altered based on the Parts body and the Double Dragster frame. This one would be a little earlier, say '62 to '65. I think they'll be wide enough for that. One pair will go on a Tweety Pie, prolly the ones with the red and white stripes. Last set might go on a street T bucket, too. Not sure about that one yet. That's the pie crusts. The Blue Streaks, I've got all kinds of /MP, Gasser, and FX builds (mid to late '60s) in the works those will work great for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10thumbs Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I think for mid 60's you could get away with it. I just looked at some pics I have as reference material, and it seems those slicks were on injected Fiats and Anglia Gassers. I'm not too interested in other Gasser models, so I don't know. I don't have many pics of earlier altereds either. Bottom line, I think they'll work. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwrass Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Snake, 9 Inch slicks what are they good for! Absolutely nothing huh!!!!!! I just thought Id bust your chops. See ya on Name That Tune Jimmy "RASS" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddyfink Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Late 50's and early 60's dragster ran those sizes. I would say up to about '62 or so. The Winged Express before the winged part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 Late 50's and early 60's dragster ran those sizes. I would say up to about '62 or so. The Winged Express before the winged part There ya go! That's pretty much the look I'm going for, more or less! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Church Key Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Nine inch slicks are the perfect size for Injected altereds and dragsters. Gas cars would run a two speed transmission and the fuel cars would run direct drive. These kind of cars needed some tire slippage to get going off the line so they could run a taller gear ratio. Of couse this is sixties technolgy, that does not apply to modern day dragsters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horsepower Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Why can't you use the front tires from the Gasser tire and wheel set to keep it all AMT parts packs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 Why can't you use the front tires from the Gasser tire and wheel set to keep it all AMT parts packs? I don't have that, and being laid off at the moment, don't have 8 or 9 or 12 bucks or whatever to put into front tires on this little happy-fun project. I'll be using genuine '60s AMT Firestone Supremes, though, to keep it retro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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