426-Hemi Posted October 10, 2016 Author Posted October 10, 2016 Now to get ya all worked up....... BOTH the "Old" 426 DOHC Hemi, beside the "NEW" and improved, 528 DOHC Hemi!Nice! The 2 of them side-by-side are almost "equals" in side! I did NOT set out for this purposely but is an added bonus I have to say! The new one will be made to fit into the trucks frame just as the first one was, and that way, all will fit right from there on out for the build! I am keeping the exhaust pipe work the same as I had planned. Also the Twin-Turbo's will be made exactly the same, as the radiator and intercooler are not in-place yet so, there is a little wiggle room fitting all this and making it right!The one thing I AM going to do, it fit a plate to the center line of the Superchargers to have a "level" setting set of carburetors on EACH Supercharger! SO, they will be "level" not mounted on their side type thing... keeping that "Long-Ram, Tunnel-Ram" looking effect! LOL BUT, now in order to keep going, I have some details I HAVE to add here, as if I go any further on the build without detailing, I'm gonna pay for the mistake! LOLI wanna put a water pump on this bad-boy, but I'm not sure how to go about it, (electric powered YES) but where to mount it! Most Mopar engine mount the water pump to both top side edges of the timing chain cover, and then on Mopar engine in drag racing they show it going to the top of the head through the valve cover, on the 426, BUT then the 392, has it cooled through the top front, inside corners of each head......... NOT sure how it connect to this bad boy, I'm leaning towards it connecting to the stock location of either side of the top of the timing chain cover! -GAWD, thats gonna be a FUN task!Thats it for now! Stay tuned! more to come as things happen, As always comments welcome! ENJOY!
gatorincebu Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 John, Those motors are just plain bad to da bone ! Nice work. Be Well Gator
426-Hemi Posted October 11, 2016 Author Posted October 11, 2016 LOL Thanks Gator!!!!! I got a LOT of details to add now before I move on with them!The neat part of this? The fact that BOTH motors are THE SAME "base" model!
426-Hemi Posted October 20, 2016 Author Posted October 20, 2016 Well, a little more done to this build! I am slow going on the details as A LOT of it HAS TO BE well thought out as it really is A LOT going on, in such a small area, so things have to be placed as just so, to not hinder other details that are major pieces to the engine.... SO all takes time and a lot of thought going in, SO with that, I went one to get the plug wires in-place on the engine! In my last update with pics, you seen the Blowers on the inverted "V" Plenum, that whole sub-assembly was merely "setting there" for the pics, all mocked up for looks sake! So, having that HUGE Intake Plenum, with the Blowers, I had to apply the Distributors, and all the wiring for the plug wires, remember DUAL-PLUGS, meaning DUAL plug wires too! 2 Distributors, & 16 plug wires total had to be fished through the Plenum's Tunnel-Ram intake base! So, with that, I color coded, the wires, one Distributor has Red wires, and the other one has Black wires! BOTH Distributors were turned in my Unimat, and then polished, BEFORE the 2 of them were mounted to the drive plate under each of them! The holes for the plug wires was drilled AFTER the polishing stage to keep the "polishing Compound" from getting in the holes, and hindering the glue adhesion....Then going forward, the front Distributor, has the red wires, and the rear Distributor has the Black wires! Meaning, the FRONT plug locations of EACH cylinder will be getting RED wires, the REAR plug location to each cylinder will be getting Black wires!So with that all said, I began by running the closest wires, first.... The Black ones....All nicely ran to their proper locations, and looks pretty "natural" laying.... I was pleased with this and kept going!I went on to get the Red wires in-place to the proper locations on the engine....LOTS of wires for merely one "type" of detail! I let 2 wires "loose" for the Coil, for each Distributor! I'll be running dual MSD ignition boxes to those Coils as well!A little update, BUT a lot of miniature work! (I'm now focusing on the intake Plenum, and all the details that will be in and or around it.... Stay tuned, more will come as things are done (and pics are taken), as always Comments welcome, ENJOY!
426-Hemi Posted November 8, 2016 Author Posted November 8, 2016 Well now the details on the intake on this engine has been a mystery! All in itself, as I really was unsure of the direction, in to which I was taking it, or it was headed. Had no real direction actually, building it as I go.... With a little inspiration, and some aspects that I seen else where that I liked and then tied them all together into one... Thats pretty much what this is!With that, looking at the Intake Plenum, with both Superchargers, and how its all going together, I needed to break up all that silver and shiny on this part, SO, I took and painted the "Ribs" of the Superchargers Hemi Orange, as well as the back of the Superchargers. THEN, on the side I added a "Label" to the engine, to match the color already in use!I think that breaks it up nicely! Granted, this engine is NOT the same colors as the truck its going in, I made it "factory" colors" to that of the actual engine. As really in a build like this (even in real life) things would have to have been made custom for such a design (Even tho fictional) This engine needed realistic things done to it, in such a way to make it believable to be.That word "HEMI" I plan to write in black "DOHC" in the Orange "H" where normally it would have "426" and then I will denote engine size else where on something else, possibly the side of the Turbo Plenums, or the sides of the BIG Supercharger style blower hate.Did not do a lot of tu-tone painting on the front of the Plenum, there is going to be A LOT going on here anyway, so I really don't think it needs any breaking up of the colors.... As you'll see in future updates!Rear plates of the Superchargers look pretty good! I like how they turned out with the Orange. The whole sub-assembly, looks good with just a little Orange added to it. As time goes on and things happen, there will be other colors added so, just a little here and a little there is all thats needed as you'll see, A LOT of detail is coming tho! I have drilled all the holes for adding the NOS piping to the Supercharger mounting lip! Thats to come! Stay tuned, more to follow, As always Comments welcome, ENJOY!
426-Hemi Posted November 8, 2016 Author Posted November 8, 2016 So as mentioned I was getting ready to do more detail to the Superchargers, whether that be the NOS piping or the start of the carburetors. I had to get to the point to have to sit and think what needed done FIRST so that I would not hinder the next detail and make detailing "difficult" SO, I went on to think how I was going to use/add the Carburetors.... This task was just that too a TASK.... I had to think what it take to make them happen, (I had already had those I wanted to use choose out, and painted, simply waiting in-line to be used!) BUT to that, how did I want them? You know? I mean looking at this whole set-up, it has a specific "feel" to it, doesn't it? I mean really, it looks and has that feel of a Mopar Cross-Ram, sort-of! SO, looking a bit further into it, a Mopar Sonoramic Commando type thing, without the Long-Arms and without all the compound "S" curves of the Ram runners that, the Sonoramic Commando has.... BUT it did have that feel to it. Or so it seems to me! SO with that, as you all are aware of, I'm gonna be running four, 4 barrels carburetors, 2 per supercharger! SO, what I plan to do, is I took the Carburetors and did all the detailing drilling each needed. And then picked out what carburetor was going to have the "inside" effect, meaning throttle linkage, and such, was going to be places somewhat between the 2 carburetors! That signifies "inside" As the other or opposite Carburetor that would outward facing making it an "outside" carburetor.With the above picture, I have 2 opposite corner Carburetors mounted, those 2 carburetors are the "inside" ones! WHY opposite corners? WELL, thats a good question! I ran them this way to have ALL the linkages running between the 2 sides! SO will not only run correctly, BUT the linkages will run like that of well...... a Sonoramic Commando Intake!! And or, a High-RPM "Cross-Ram" like the Ramcharger 426 Hemi had..... With just lengthened drive rods!I think with all the details going into this, this will look GREAT! As it seems this intake set-up just keeps growing..... Well yeah, sort of! The general "size" of it is done, but adding all the details to it makes it grow in size. I have yet to get all the carburetors in-place, as I got to get to the plumbing of them as well, BUT first, I had to get them situated in-place, on 2 of them to act as a counter so that the other 2 go in-place correctly, BUT before I can carry out the detailing work of the carburetors, I have to get ALL the top-side NOS piping in-place, so doing a bit of thinking things through, and doing some set-up to get the stage ready for the next detail, well.... That all showed me that what detail has to go on first so not to hinder the details to follow, it all has a specific "shopping order".A pic from above a little over-view of the carburetor set-up....
426-Hemi Posted November 8, 2016 Author Posted November 8, 2016 SO then, with the opposite corner Carburetors in-place to stay to have them set the stage for the other 2, I seen in adding these, that when I go to detail, them, I would have to have the NOS pipe work already in-place BEFORE the carburetors can be detailed at all..... SO this got me thinking.... What was I gonna need to make this happen! The NOS system would need 2 manifolds for the NOS per supercharger! The lower inlet ports on the blowers lip. And then it need the upper ones just below the carburetors (a lot of times thats done with a plate the carburetors sit on!) SO, I thought, I'd get the lower NOS lines in-place that be the "inside" of them in the inverted "V" Intake Plenum. This pipe work will be added to the lower edge of the Superchargers, but run to the rear of the superchargers to keep a semi-symmetrical look going on.In order to do this tho, I had to think of what I was going to use as a Manifold for the NOS.... Remember, there is 2 Superchargers, meaning twice the work, and to that, well.... EVERYTHING has to have a Left & Right version.... SO, having said this, the manifolds for the NOS? Theres no real detail made for those, nor if there was would I of all people have 2 of them, never mind having 4 of them! (This one engine would need 4 of them!) SO, having said that as I normally do, off to the scrap pile I go.... To see what I had that make a Manifold from, and then got to thinking a bit more into it, where, and how was I going to "mount" it? So I pulled materials to make the manifold from and then while looking for that strip stock, I got to looking for "L" angle thats a tad bigger then the material the manifolds would be made from.... I sat down and figured out in what way, the mount "L" angle was going to best suit the manifold, and then got to drilling the manifold, One manifold per edge, meaning 4 pipes to the Supercharger one to "feed" the manifold, & LOTS of fittings!So I got it all figured out on how it was going to be, and made 2 manifolds with mount, painted them, and as soon as I could got the manifolds in-place to sit and dry so that the pipe work could begin!Manifolds mounted inward of the 2 superchargers, And one NOS pipe with fittings in-place one adjacent from the other.Once I got a rhythm going, I left 'er rip! Those pipes? Are NOT easy to make! WOW I mean, you want to have the looks I got here and believe me, It seemed to take forever..... BUT the end result? I'm VERY pleased with!They're not 100% symmetrical from one side or the other, but from the looks they're close! I'm happy with them as they are!This looks GREAT! I say that it was difficult to do, and it was, but I had fun making them all look as seen here! I'll also mention here, I used a different type wire for these! As the rest will also get as well, this is wire used for windings on a electric motor, on the Armature. The look of this made for a GREAT looking NOS piping set-up!A shot without the bright flash of my camera.... The piping is DARK Orange/red in color almost an Anodized look to it, (Reason I picked it) and the size happened to be right for this! And one plus to it, was it was pretty easily to bend, so not a lot of pressure was needed to form each bend. The hard part, is making the bends in the right places!Thanks for following along! Enjoy!
426-Hemi Posted November 8, 2016 Author Posted November 8, 2016 So in between times painting and gluing. I had a little down time to spare on and off on this build, and needed to keep busy and try to make a little progress, SO I sat out to see what other "details" needed added, painted, etc. So one part this engine is missing? The starter! I wanted this part to represent the high end and high torque starter that it would need to be.. NOT needing to be is the small one to not be "wrapped" with exhaust work, at least not this build!So then I took it and went on to make it a High-Performance Starter....Not to shabby I think it looks pretty good! (I have to say tho, the added red "Solenoid" makes it look the part, thats for sure!) -And really that added Red to a started is just a bit different for me..... But, I like it!This is all for now! I'll have more as things happen and pics are taken! As always with my builds, comments welcome & enjoyed! Thanks for following along, ENJOY!
426-Hemi Posted November 8, 2016 Author Posted November 8, 2016 So its been a little bit on this build. I had to do a little research on the NOS system that go to it as I have to admit, I am not that knowledgeable on NOS and how it all hooks up, SO, with that and being what this engine is, I wanted to be "close" to that of a real application, times 2! BUT, I'm limited, on what can be done with NOS as I'm not sure all the parts that it entails are made, or can be made to look the part, that they are, or are to do.... SO that all took a little time and then talking with a friend that plays with it, helping me and all (guiding me to make it as best I can) to that he knows how I am with details and then had to bite my own tongue as there just some parts, I can not make right for this application of NOS.... So, I'll have to live with that!So then off to the detailing of the "underside" of each Supercharger.... The NOS piping much the same way as the top, just the other side of the Superchargers.....The back & underside of the Superchargers, I made, & added the NOS manifolds, just like the top ones. Just had to be mounted in such a way, that the piping would NOT interfere with the Valve Covers and the details on them! Remember, this intake set-up is HUGE, so..... I had to pre-test fit EVERYTHING....A little bit better view of the NOS Manifold system I've made.... VERY interesting set-up to say the least! What fun and learning project this one has been.....The NOS piping going in..... SOME piping had to be over laid, the other piping before it and made to fit that way! Let me be the first to say, this pipe work? Is D-I-F-F-I-C-U-L-T.... It has to almost be, "perfect" to look right..... I have some "adjustments" to make once its all in place.... -I did that same thing on the top when all the piping was done!Other side.... Looking not to bad! Again, needing a little adjustment, when all is in-place..... I tell ya, this is all I got done since my last update, I've been caught up around the house, and in the shop with other things, not model related, its that time of year I guess.....Thats it for now! More to come as I get things done, and in-place! Thanks for following along, Comments always welcome! ENJOY!
slusher Posted November 8, 2016 Posted November 8, 2016 That is a beast of an engine your building John..
DeeCee Posted November 8, 2016 Posted November 8, 2016 INSANITY John, but looking goo mate. I feel the Carbs don't look big enough now, even though your using 4 of them..
426-Hemi Posted November 9, 2016 Author Posted November 9, 2016 That is a beast of an engine your building John.. Thanks Carl!!!! Its meant to be that way too!
426-Hemi Posted November 9, 2016 Author Posted November 9, 2016 INSANITY John, but looking goo mate. I feel the Carbs don't look big enough now, even though your using 4 of them.. Dale, don't you know it man! Thanks! Yeah, I got a surprise for those carbs...... LOL Wait and SEE!
426-Hemi Posted November 14, 2016 Author Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) Well a little more on the ole "Stand-by" build Doomz Day..... I been struggling. I mean really, trying to keep a sense of motivation, and go on with the build. (I'm sure everyone has this) so... specially when you build "a LOT" which, I do! So being the King of Procrastination lately, I managed to get the lower Super charger NOS lines plumbed with fittings in-place.... What a task! I tell ya that put my nerves at their wits end! LOLOne side, looking pretty good!Other side looking as good as the first! I'm pleased with how this has turned out!The back where all the NOS manifolds are mounted to support all that plumbing.... This was a labor of love all in itself let me tell ya guys! WOW was it "trying" my patients to complete this portion of this engine detailing! -Glad I did tho! It looks GREAT! So then, off to thinking, what you all see here is merely the lower level NOS!!!! Times 2, (has 2 Superchargers) so. that means I'll either be using Fuel Injection, with a NOS rail, up top, OR have a NOS plate under each carburetor. As you all know by now, I'm going with carburetors on this ole beast! So that means, I had to sit down and make my own fitted NOS plates that be mounted on the intake, that the carburetors will set on top of! So, I got that did.... Was a little bit of a task! I had to find plastic sheet thick enough to look the part, allow the NOS piping to go into as well as have a fitting to it, and be UNDER the bowls of the carburetors all at the same time! Which took a bit of digging through some left-over scraps I had (I wasn't about to cut a full sheet of plastic, for merely 4 small pieces I knew I had in the scrap pile! (Save those big full sheets for much bigger projects if ya can help it!) I didn't get pics of these plates yet, they'll be coming they're on a board painted one side, and all 4 edges right now, SO, I'm waiting till I can peel them loose from the board, and flip 'em over to paint the other side to match the first. Once thats done, I'll get some pics of those!But, thats not all, Stay tuned! More right after these short sponsors..... Thanks for following along! Edited November 15, 2016 by 426-Hemi Mistake Posting!
426-Hemi Posted November 14, 2016 Author Posted November 14, 2016 In my last posting, I mentioned there was more to come, so. here we go! As you read, I got all the NOS pipes on to their respected locations in the manifold, for them, and then had made the NOS plates to go under the carburetors, and are/were drying. SO I got to a place on this model that its been a while to have "that feeling", of whats next! WELL I know on the engine whats next on it, just a matter of time allowing paint to dry for handling! BUT that lets me, sitting in waits on that, so to pass time, I picked up the frame to this truck to see what else I could do to it. to get that much closer..... So, I pawed through the parts I had put in the box to it, to see what all was there, and what all goes to the frame, without ANY "drive train". First thing I noticed? Suspension, SHOCKS! I had a look at the Donor shocks, and was like well "OK" if I "have to". Looked at a parts-sprue with new ones on it, closely the same, and yet again, I was like OK, "if I have too" So really, I was NOT feeling those shocks, NOR did they have the amount of detail on them I'd like, never mind what I could paint, or add myself. With that, (as most that know me will vouch) I wasn't happy with the shocks from the donor kit.... They'd be good on some other kit, but not this on! SO where's that leave me? High & dry with no shocks to put on my Doomz Day truck, WELL, with me, My strongest point modeling be? Replication, I'm good at replicating things over and over again (They didn't call me "Pattern Patton", for nothing at work!) So me being well..... ME, I sat out to SCRATCHBUILD the shocks ALL 16 of them! I have to admit, it seems as tho if it isn't the most extremely difficult task, I'm somehow not involved in it.......... LOLSo here, you see the donor shocks! NOT impressed! SO, to the right of them you see little tiny shiny rods.... That have what looks like a brass cap on one end! Those little tiny parts? Are the shock plungers! That brass cap is its mount! The shiny silver part is Aluminum pipe of 1/16th inch in diameter. POLISHED, and a brass jewelry making crimp used for a mount! Lightly press fitted!Now ya see the shocks body..... The cylinder that the plunger would depress into.... Notice, it has a "black" ring on the top,. and a "silver" ring on the bottom of a "white" center? These 16 pieces are a 2 piece sub-assembly of one part! I took 1/8th inch aluminum tube, and cut it off to the seen "white" length, and then took and painted it gloss white! Took the measurement of that, and added just under 1/8th inch to its length and used 3/32nd inch tubing with added just under 1/8th inch to the length of the white part, and cleaned BOTH ends up nicely. Once the white part was dry, I pressed the 3/32nd diameter tube into the 1/8th inch tube, to be "telescopic", this forms me a plunger seal on one end, (painted flat black), and the mount on the other end, (silver, unpainted Aluminum)Needless to say a little bit of work, goes into 16 of these all the same size!This is how they will go together when I've got them all ready to go.... BUT looking at that above picture, I still feel as tho, something is missing! They're pretty much the same as the stock factory shock, only a tad bit heavier and more bulky..... They needed something more.....SPRINGS! Coil-Over springs!!!!!!! SO, thinking and looking at that "bare" re-built shock, I was thinking of what more I could add..... Thats when the coil-over springs hit me like a ton of bricks! SO I pulled out my Spring Arbor to fit the Unimat, and right off to it I went! Took me a couple tries to get the "wind" right on them and have a "start/finish" on ONE end, to look the part, and be connected to that brass mount on the plunger. As the picture shows.. where the spring will be for those who might be learning..... Others as you can see, there is a steel pin that will go through the whole length of this as each joint is CA glued, to hold its length, and then one end glued to the plastic "mount" and then the wire pin glued on that end, followed by the same on the other end.I've even thought of adding "shared" gas-tanks PER cylinder "couples"..... For gas-charged coil-over shocks! BUT before I go to say thats going to happen, I have to get the shocks pretty close done first! -NOT sure that will happen but its a thought thats crossed my mind!Thats it for now everyone! More to come as things happen! As always comments welcome & enjoyed!
426-Hemi Posted November 14, 2016 Author Posted November 14, 2016 I thought I got one single shock done, I'd post up what that looks like BEFORE it gets painted and all, as I have a lot to go (15 more!) So.... Here ya go for those following along.So then, you can see how it'll look with the coil-over spring in-place on a single shock, I think once their all done, and painted they'll look quite good!Thanks for looking & following along on this build! Much Appreciated! Comments always welcome and entertained!
gatorincebu Posted November 14, 2016 Posted November 14, 2016 Holy moly Batman ! john your detailing is impressive , to say the least. Be Well Gator
426-Hemi Posted November 15, 2016 Author Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) Thanks Gator! I tell ya, if its not difficult, and needs a lot of work it seems I then have not much to do with it! LOL BUT I do enjoy the challenge to it if nothing else, and this is no different! I do however think, when I get one "shock" done per set of 2, I will then epoxy all the joints, just to ensure that the thing will STAY..... Allow to dry, that one shock, BEFORE I cut the factory one beside it, just to use the factory shock for a length setter on each "set" of shocks.... Boy I can see this is gonna be a LOT of work BUT then again, this whole build has been "a lot of work" so. thats OK Thanks for the kind words.... I work with what I have, and make what I don't...... Anyway, thanks for following along! Edited November 15, 2016 by 426-Hemi Can't Spell!
72 Charger Posted November 15, 2016 Posted November 15, 2016 OMG that shock is a kit in itself . Do you use a microscope to build ?
Foxer Posted November 16, 2016 Posted November 16, 2016 need to thumbs up cause I've been here mesmerized
426-Hemi Posted November 17, 2016 Author Posted November 17, 2016 OMG that shock is a kit in itself . Do you use a microscope to build ? Thanks Dave! Actually, Nope bare eye too! I normally wear glasses for driving and such as I'm near sighted, so for up close small things I actually see 20-15!!! Thanks much my Mopar friend! Much appreciated!
426-Hemi Posted November 17, 2016 Author Posted November 17, 2016 need to thumbs up cause I've been here mesmerizedThanks for the kudo's! Much appreciated!!!! Stay tuned, there is more coming in the next day or so.....
426-Hemi Posted November 18, 2016 Author Posted November 18, 2016 So a short & sweet update, NO I haven't gotten any more of the shocks done...................yet! I wished! To much going on to have the time sit aside to sit my ass down and do them BUT, thats OK, I am making a little progress on the engine for this Monster Truck, if nothing else!As you can see, I got the wires on the starter for the engine for when the times comes that this will be going in-place, its all set & ready! I will have to touch up where the parts sprue was attached, when its removed (Left in-place on the part to hold it while I painted it!)Like I mentioned, short & sweet! Thats it for now till more is done..... As always comments welcome and enjoyed! Thanks for looking.
mustang1989 Posted November 22, 2016 Posted November 22, 2016 You're gonna need twin fuel tanks to feed that hungry beast! Wild motor!
426-Hemi Posted December 11, 2016 Author Posted December 11, 2016 You're gonna need twin fuel tanks to feed that hungry beast! Wild motor! LOL Thanks Joe!!!! Yeah that thing sure would drink fuel wouldn't it? (I think I put the biggest fuel tank on it that would fit. remember the truck is an A100 after-all a very short wheel base thing.. this one has a REAL attitude tho! -Told ya the engine was a wild one!!!! LOL
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