Mark C.

Great news! These are my two most anticipated new releases coming, followed closely by the ’72 Duster. Thanks for posting that.

Thanks for the heads up. I’ll wait until they fix this before I get one. It’s an important detail to me, and I’m a patient guy. The subject matter isn’t high enough on my priorities list that I need one right now, anyhow (and with any luck, by then maybe a flat hood version will be out), nor would I be motivated enough to buy aftermarket parts to achieve what to my way of thinking should be available out of the box. I am happy for the release, and everyone who is excited to get one, though, and honestly little detail foibles like this are to be expected on a new release - really it’s Moebius that I feel bad for, as this will cost them irretrievable money that wasn’t really necessary had someone caught this before it was committed to tooling. Once I see some pro touring builds, though, I can see my motivations changing. I’ve already had thoughts of swapping out the body for a mod stocker ‘65 Fairlane with all the radiused wheel arches and stock car mods, fitting it with obviously added on lights to make it street legal, and going for the race car converted to street car look, but with modern wheel/tire combo, etc. A bit of a mash up of genres to achieve “the look”. We’ll see if that ever materializes… 😉

Probably why JR calls it the Chrysler Plymouth (or something like that) vs Road Runner, but then they also have to have Petty licensing, NASCAR licensing, etc…

By "cottage industry", I meant small producers of resin kits, etc. I have a few from different producers, and don't recall ever seeing any trademarks on them (not saying they don't exist, could be just that I have a crappy memory). I consider the mass producers of styrene kits as the mainstream industry, and yes, I tend to prefer their nicely packaged, generally well engineered, relatively inexpensive kits to ones from the aftermarket, but it's all about subject matter. Some subjects will never be produced by a mainstream manufacturer, so it's either the small producers or nothing. If the auto industries' legal departments ever decided to bring the hammer down on the small producers, then we would probably go back to the days of scratchbuilding them yourselves, or we would have to all become 3D kit designers (and not share or sell any of our files for fear of legal action).

Sounds like a great way to ensure that nobody ever gets to build any of these again. Is it typical for the cottage industry to pay licensing to the car companies? There have been a lot of low buck low volume “kit” producers (i.e. our many wonderful resin kit producers who have been putting a spark into our hobby for decades) who I can’t imagine being large enough to be able to afford a licensing deal with the automakers, not to mention just the legal fees involved, so what’s the deal there? Seems like it would kill off most of our aftermarket if that were the case.

I think essentially that is what Round 2 has been doing with their clone/reissues. For them, though it’s a mass production mass marketing venture that requires lots of investment and requires good sales to make it profitable. Plus, the market only has so much room to support new releases, so they have to pick subject matter carefully. That’s a big difference from a designer creating files to sell to a hobbyist (or cottage industry printer) to print a small volume of copies for minimal investment. That’s the limit of my understanding, but I think it characterizes the differences well enough.

Absolutely. Where I live, we have a business called Autoport, that is basically a logistics port to shuffle cars arriving from overseas, going overseas, or arriving from assembly plants in NA to be distributed to local dealers. As such any group of vehicles from any brand could be hauled by any random carrier. Therefore, as an example of what could be realistically portrayed in a model building project, pretty much anything goes as long as it is reasonably period correct.

Not sure if it has been mentioned, but there are 3D print versions available of the ‘71 Satellite and Road Runner, plus the ‘72 Road Runner. I don’t have any of them, but the renderings seem to have reasonable body proportions. There are missing details, the chassis is not good at all (double A arm front suspension instead of the correct torsion bar configuration, etc), but are an option anyhow. I like to have options, so it’s a positive for me. Here’s a link to the ‘72: https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/plymouth-road-runner-1972

Now there’s a hijack I could sink my teeth into. If I were to dare to dream, I’d say bring it on!

Just want to say thanks to Steve G. and crew at R2 for all of these amazing announcements! The amount of discussion here is an indication of the excitement generated by these releases. This is very good for the hobby. My biggest problem is having the patience to wait for them! 👍🏻

Agreed on all counts. Really happy to see this coming out! I will be getting more than one of this version, and also expect that there will be pro stock versions coming in the future… so I will probably be getting multiples! lol

The Mach E is a great electric SUV, but put any badge on it that you want, it’s still not a Mustang. Sadly, though, in yet another case of the world not seeing things my way (yet again! What’s up with that?), the Mustang nameplate remaining solely on a 2 door coupe and convertible would likely result in the demise of the brand, eventually, as “SUV” and “car” move ever closer to becoming synonyms…

Even if it were to be announced as a surprise reissue next week, I will not post in this thread again! 😆 Next I’m gonna post about wanting the ‘65/‘66 MPC Polara/Monaco cloned for reissue. Surely the chassis tools (one of the best renditions of the C, eh Tim? 😉) must still be out there somewhere…. 😁 Let ‘er rip! My wallet is ready! (haha… have a sense of humour, guys!)

Appreciate your comments, Tim. FWIW, I don’t really have a “side” (although in these times it sometimes feels like a requirement, one which I will always reject), and by no means am I intending to dictate how people consume this media. I do, however at times feel some slight frustration when it seems to me as though some are trying to shoot down others for their enthusiasm for a particular subject. Maybe that’s more of a reflection on how I view the conversation rather than its intent, however. Anything more, and I’m only repeating myself. Always enjoy respectful discourse, whether I am in agreement or not. Go Jays!!

I look at that as one of the hazards of getting a large group of people together to discuss ‘anything’. Rather than turning this into an airing of the grievances, all I will say is “be excellent to one another!”. So… ‘67 Galaxie anyone?

I think one area where we tend to get crossed up a lot here is that being a modelling discussion forum, a lot of people (myself included) feel like it’s a safe space to air our future kit subject wants and desires, no matter how “out there” they seem. Sometimes this causes friction among the members who feel more like this is a board meeting, and every idea presented must pass the scrutiny of the bean counters first. The difference is that in a board meeting, the idea wouldn’t be approved unless it satisfied the parties who make the decisions, whereas here we get to be labeled (amicably) as the “lunatic fringe”. I actually love the conversation and the back and forth, as long as it isn’t taken too seriously. I think it goes off the rails a little when we do take things too seriously and the conversation starts to feel like “don’t say it anymore, because you’ll ruin everything”, as if we had that kind of power in the first place. FWIW. Just my five cents on the matter…

I typically don’t build big rig kits, but that Mack will change that! Definitely will be getting one! I have a soft spot for all trucks from the 1940s thru 1960s.

I will get one of these!

^ Best signature of ever, BTW.

Everything crossing international borders these days seems to be much slower (and more expensive). Guess it’s just our new reality. I too am looking forward to this one. Should be worth the wait!

I was being sarcastic. The idiocy that led to this situation is inexcusable, but that’s as far as I’m going with it. I wish you the best of luck in sourcing your favourite modelling products.

Sooner or later, people will get tired of this and stop ordering from outside the country. Hmmm…

The opening cargo doors and slider are a game changer, IMHO. Don’t care about engine detail for the reasons already stated, and don’t mind the simplified chassis though would prefer separate suspension and axle, as the molded in variety severely detracts from its appearance (IMHO). I will say, though, that for a kit relying on its external appearance as its main attraction point, getting the front end to look right is a requirement, not an option. They should have done better.

LOL that works too!

The kit parts don’t look to be accurate representations of either. Thanks for pointing that out. I am super super happy to see this come out, and will buy multiple copies regardless, but I really hope they can correct this before production starts. Ideally I would like to see accurate steel wheels with both full wheel covers and hubcaps available as options, but I would be happy with just one, as long as it is accurate.