sjordan2

Just to be irritating, but so far we're on page 24 of a heated discussion about a car that is not yet on the market and no one has built yet. Therefore, we are not so much discussing a kit as a theory. Yet we seem to have a number of members who are confirmed in their opinions on something they haven't experienced yet. As Plato observed, we are not reacting to the reality of a thing, but merely the shadows on the cave cast by the fire. These are abstractions of reality, not reality itself. Therefore, we should all go have a beer and come back when the kit is out there.

Thanks, Art. Meanwhile, back at the ranch... For those who really want to geek out on this kit, which appears as if it will be a remarkable canvas for artists to use their own touches, you can find original and reproduction parts catalogs on eBay. I assume, like other parts manuals I have, they will feature accurate drawings of individual parts plus exploded assemblies, though I don't know for sure.

Just remember that there are many external visual differences between this '54 and the Moebius '53, notably the side trim, grille, rear fenders and air scoop on the hood.

So I shouldn't mention that the trunk will need the same kind of supports for the lid?

Based on the somewhat passionate discussion about the pros and cons of Moebius' upcoming Hudson Hornet and the Trumpeter Falcon, it would be interesting to know your opinions on the styrene kits that really nailed it for accuracy and detail, and have the fewest problems. I can't think of any based on my experience, but what are your thoughts? What would you suggest as something that really got it right?

You mean...stirred up a Hornet's nest?

I think it would also be a bit tricky to make accurate-looking hood hinges, which appear to be side-mounted.

Here's a better look at how extremely thin those hood supports are, and they appear to have very deep grooves. I'd say files and sandpaper would be the way to go to get a thickness you're satisfied with.

There's more than a chance. Quite a few posts were lost this week due to the change in servers, as Gregg had advised everyone in advance. You're not likely to find it, so you're better off just to re-post it.

Thick, maybe. But looks like it's not too far off for an experienced builder to deal with.

Part of a recent new member's journey of discovery on this site, and it's good to revisit some of MCM's Greatest Hits.

Great work, but too much. Can we do one at a time?

Yeah, that's the way I should have done it in the first place. Is that your plan for this build? I would recommend it. And if possible, the same goes for the headlight mounting brackets, though they're not as exposed as the fenders. Somehow, my plastic brackets have managed to survive five moves over the last 35 years. But putting stone guards on the headlights could involve extra stress on the mounts. My scratch-built (and embarrassingly bad) stone guards disappeared years ago.

I left my wallet with $200 in it in one of yesterday's posts. Has anyone seen it? Is this site insured?

Is there anything that snapped off flush at the pin mounting points? I ask because I have to put the cycle fenders back on without the fix being too obvious.

What have you been using to put this together? Rubber cement?

I'm sure many didn't see Harry's now-missing post with the tragic news that the kit fell off the table and smashed everything except the engine. I just wanted to say, don't give up, this is one of the best builds I've ever seen of this kit. (Or is this something like "the dog ate my homework?" )

I'm wondering if it wouldn't be easier to use Plastruct triangular rod for the the seam that goes down the middle of the body.

Yeah, the opening part of the thread is still there, but not what came after it. I've just repeated the info there.

About half of this thread got lost in the move of the server, so I'll repeat some info I posted on Wednesday. It was asked why there was only one silver quarter panel on the Firebird, and the answer is that it's that way on both sides (I found another site with multiple pictures of this build). A question was also asked about the car's tie-in with Overhaulin'. Felix says he was inspired by Foose's paint design; For anyone who's interested, it was featured on Season 3, episode 25, April 25, 2006. Called "Uncle Sam's Nephew," the project was undertaken as a surprise for a Marine who had served three tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan. The program can be found in a dubbed Spanish version: http://www.tu.tv/videos/overhaulin-pontiac-firebird-69 (I'm sure Felix didn't attempt to replicate all the stuff they did to that car. If so, he'd still be working on it.)

I did a lot of digging to find the Overhaulin' episode regarding the Foosification of a 1968 Firebird 400 that was one of the subjects of Felix's Odd Couple post in Under Glass, now gone. No big deal. For anyone who's intersted, it was featured on Season 3, episode 25, April 25, 2006. The program can be found on trutv.com in a dubbed Spanish version.

With all that Alclad at your disposal, this should be your next build - SLS AMG in Alu-Beam silver.

Agreed. For creating or duplicating parts without the need for outside suppliers who provide indeterminate quality, and for making parts you are satisfied with, it will be a huge asset. And if you're a computer engineering whiz, you can conceive what's never been seen before in a high-quality way. Until some kit maker comes up with a way to meet the total detail needs of the advanced or typical styrene kit builder (and without scaring away people who don't need 1000 parts for a satisfying build), I don't see scratchbuilding ever going away. But I think this process will become a great new tool for avid builders, and should be relied on, perhaps more than I am aware of, to help companies like Revell, Round 2, etc., add greater accuracy and manufacturing speed to their products.

It wasn't just in the chat room, where I never go. It was posted on a normal thread. But no big deal. Not everyone can be expected to follow every post on every thread, and this subject has multiple threads with a zillion posts. The good part is you don't have to create your own convertible. Anyway, I'm like everyone else and I can't wait to see the first builds of this kit.

This should give you what you need to work with for the Patron number part. If you know anyone who's familiar with graphics programs, all you need to do is add the 33 and put a green border around it. Obviously, you'll need to flop the position of the logo graphic to face the opposite side for the hood (and probably the driver door). Just print to scale on white decal paper. Or you may just want to print it out on white paper to reduce the effect of the paint underneath making the white part darker. You can use these elements to build the windshield graphic.