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I modified the Revell 4 banger to match reference pictures for a stock Thames/Anglia engine. Reduced the engine bock size, switched the intake and carburetor and the exhaust ports from the right to left side. Scrounged an air cleaner from the parts stash. Air cleaner looks too large, but photos indicate different models had very different air cleaner shapes and sizes so maybe I'll go with it, or just sand it down.

The Heller Citroen truck kit arrived.....I pulled the engine parts and made a comparison to the Revell 4 banger. When compared the stock Thames/Anglia engine pictures , the Heller engine (grey)is more accurate for the valve cover, exhaust and fuel intake location, but is a bit too large in height and length when compared to the Revell 4 banger (white) for the Thames engine compartment. I think I'm going to heavily modify the Revell 4 banger.

Thank you....looks like the Revell kit flip front hood has to go, in order to back date to a stock Thames. Scribing the saw cut line next.

....added angled window trim to more accurately match stock woody.

So, I won a Heller Citroen truck kit on Ebay (seller in USA) when gets here I'll post the engine side by side with teh 4 banger...then decide. In the meantime, I'll need to keep working on back dating the body shell to a stock Thames panel. I have PE grilles on the way from Model Car Garage, both the front and R and L side grilles in the hood. The photo Joe/Southpier sourced, as well as one I found in Gasser Wars magazine, indicates I need to add wood crossmembers across the top of both the driver and passenger doors, and trim/angle the wood cross members along the bottom of the roof rain gutter, to more accurately represent a stock Thames woody.

Thanks guys......if this is the one, not sure I want to pay Ebay prices and shipping from UK or France....may have a line on one in USA.....

Put it in primer (Tamiya Mr. Surfacer) this morning. Working the interior and 4 banger engine. Also considering wood paneling techniques.

The front axle in the kit is a unit that raises the front end for weight distribution - typical of dragsters of the time. I'll need to check a kit box deep in the closet, - but I'm pretty sure both the front dropped axle and the rear axle are from the Old AMT 1929 Model "A" roadster - kit #6572 or a variant.

Ok, I searched my file and found pictures related to stock Anglia engines previous discussion - Battery looks bigger than the engine in some of these pictures.....LOL

The front axle in the kit is a unit that raises the front end for weight distribution - typical of dragsters of the time. I'll need to check a kit box deep in the closet, - but I'm pretty sure both the front dropped axle and the rear axle are from the old AMT 1929 Model "A" roadster - kit #6572 or a variant. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pretty sure the tires and steelie wheels are form the 1950 Ford pickup

The front axle in the kit is a unit that raises the front end for weight distribution - typical of dragsters of the time. I'll need to check a kit box deep in the closet, - but I'm pretty sure both the front dropped axle and the rear axle are from the Old AMT 1929 Model "A" roadster - kit #6572 or a variant.

Yep...it has been awhile - but I am the OP - and I tried to get my password reset several times and all my messages went unanswered. So, I gave up on that - and reintroduced myself recently in the introductions section - but I had to use an entirely new user name to log on to do it. Nonetheless, I thought I'd pick up this thread were I left off. Hey Dodge - If you have a better suggestion I'm all ears...I don't know if it makes sense to try and replicate a stock Anglia/Thames motor at this point - if it can be done, I'll give it a try. it sounds like the 1172cc British Ford is much smaller than the Ford A - 4cylinder...so it is not equivalent. But it sounds like the Ford A -4 cyl. is more engine than needed? I would think since hot rod versions of Anglias and Thames have used everything from f.i. small blocks up to a supercharged Rat motor, - everything is fair game if I consider an engine swap. Doing a woody and not a dragster, I'm looking at less . Thanks for the posts everyone. I want to finish this but the engine is a decision that needs to be made.

Beautiful job.

I know one was made by All American Models - Lafayette IN circa 1999 - was $23 at the time. Probably OOP - I've extracted this info from a web search: ""All American Models was operated by Art Anderson. He is not doing it anymore. However I believe he did sell all the molds to other companies" nope- He did sell off the prewar car masters to R&D Unique in 2001, but they've not reissued any of them (cars like the Duesenbergs, Cords, V8 Fords). He stills own all the other mastering, but they are not going to be reissued, nor will they be sold off I think the other was a Jimmy Flintstone (NB175 1927 Ford) acquired on Ebay IIRC...no box or invoice, so I'm not sure. http://jimmyflintstonestudios.com/?product_cat=car-bodys Bernard mentioned Altered States Resin...http://www.alteredstatesmodels.com/salt_flats.htm I think this is the one he referred to:

Well now I'm not sure which resin body was the All American Models and which one was another brand (J. Flintstones ?). I didn't particularly like the track nose that came with either - so they go in the parts box. The tan nose was horribly out of dimension and didn't the body shell anyway. I've gone as far as cutting the rear wheel wells and adding a firewall and floor boards on the tan body, so I'm fairly committed to using this resin body. The pin holes I drilled for tail lights and the gas cap. I notice there is a trunk line engraved in one and not the other. That's ok..... just gives me an excuse to plan the next '27 after this one........ LOL.

I'm in awe of that '29 A rat you did. . Trak or not.....I could look at it for hours. I have another 27 T body in a box which I got in 1999 according to an invoice.......thinner white resin - the invoice says it was from All American Models. Not sure why I started using this thicker resin one - which I think might be a J.Flintsones - I'm not sure where it came from now.

Thanks Bernard....I think have a line on the Phaeton windshield. I like both of your 27s...what body did you use? I'm leaning towards a very dark metallic violet blue with complementary yellow/orange wheels with chrome baby moons and trim rings. Interior...maybe black or black with white. (BTW: This might be TRaKable.....so, check ya later...alligator.)

I kind like the weathered wood look,...a surf woodie this vintage would probably be well weathered. And I can hide my mistakes better!

Love the heat staining...was that with airbrushed clear colors - or do you have another method?

I know the feeling - Even though I had the Surfite and Beatnik Bandit started, - I was burnt out after these three, it takes a bit of work to get these done. Parts on the Tweedy Pie tree are very fragile, and dealing with gluing the chrome parts/plating assembling car frames is difficult. (probably why I haven't finished an Orange Crate). The interior of the B.Bandit needs some reworking to duplicate the actual look of the 1:1 interior.

Thanks! I never seemed to be able to complete a Roth car kit when I was a kid...or any Revell show car for that matter. Lots of "fiddly bits".Meeting him, AND getting a trophy from him...what an experience you had ! (what car did you win with ?). I met him, and his son, at a car show, and I was able to thank him personally for inspiring me as a kid to get into the art field in school, and the design profession later in life. And he seemed sincerely appreciative, listening carefully and thoughtfully to each word, seeming grateful to know that he made a difference in kids lives all while having fun. I'm kicking myself for actually having him autograph the books and kits and stuff, - I wish I spent more time in a discussion on how he designed these things...they seem so "right" - and perfect as they are. I think a guy at the show invited his son - and Ed out to dinner that evening...his son said "Ed likes to eat,...ask him. He might take you up on it." Boy...the dinner conversation I may have missed, not hanging around.

Love the way you composed the pictures. Love old vintage 4-banger Lakesters too! Well Done!

Three down....three to go. I think.

The Model A frame has the 29 roadster spring housing grafted on and has been Z'd in the rear for correct stance - with a drooped front axle, lowers the body on the frame/wheels.