Ace-Garageguy Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Any of you guys know if any of the Nissan S-14 Silvia / 240SX Kits are full detail? Or Skylines of the same vintage? I just bought a Tamiya Skyline GT-R, and it's a curbside. I need some greasy bits. This basic body shell is what I'm after, but with engine / suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunkypeanutbutter Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Well, there's a 180SX by Tamiya, but you'd still need an engine, presuming the underbody is the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 I posted this over on "questions" and didn't have much in the way of responses. I know some of youse guys build a lot of Asian cars, and I know very little about them, as kits go. Any of you guys know if any of the Nissan S-14 Silvia / 240SX kits are full detail? I bought a Tamiya Skyline GT-R curbside (cheapo on the scratch / dent table) thinking I'd maybe convert it to a 240SX, but it's too much work, and I'll probably build it as-is anyway. This is what I'm after. Must be the S-14 generation. I've looked a lot online for various kits, but I'm not getting photos of the contents laid out. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Zoom Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 None of the Silvia kits have ever had full detail, they're all curbside; generally they have had pretty unremarkable 4 cylinder power (a few had 3.0 V6's in the US), they're popular because they're light and RWD. One GTR from the late 80's/early 90's, the Tamiya R32 GTR, has full detail, and that's the one everyone gets to kitbash with earlier and later inline 6 GTR's. Doubt its the same platform as the Silvia/SX's. If you go to Hobby Search, convert to English, you can generally see photos/scans of parts and instructions for most Japanese kits. I have an early 70's fastback GTR kit that has an engine, but it's an afterthought and a bit of a job to open the hood and underhood detail is weak, but it does have a full engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I bought this Silvia kit recently, Hobby Search has pics of the parts and instructions. http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10312058 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTK Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 There are a few videos on youtube of the unboxing/review of these models. Unfortunately a quick search for me only brought up curbside models. The KA motors in these cars like zoom zoom said weren't very fast. The SR20 which came in the japanese silvia versions were a bit quicker and could be found in a few other nissans in case you're considering opening the hood and building an engine bay. Also, on your search make sure you pay close attention to which version you buy, the one you have pictured is the "kouki" front end which I believe was 97+, they made another earlier version referred to as the zenki front end. Good luck with your search! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbwelda Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 don't think you are going to find such a beast they are all curbside as far as I know. my 1:1 is plenty fast even with slightly less than 200k miles on it. of course I go around corners and the lowering and cross shock stabilizer helps. jb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) There is one S13 that has top half engine detail , you could transplant that into the S14 , or if you really wanted to go wild, and if you can find one , get Hobby Design's full detail RB26DETT motor kit and put that in the S14. Edited May 30, 2015 by martinfan5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 Thanks everyone. I really appreciate the responses. Miles Garrod (chunkypeanutbutter) mentioned a 180SX as a possible donor, but the ones I've found look to me to be an earlier design than the S-14, with different suspension, fuel tank, etc. I was thinking a Toyota 2JZ-GTE, which is, I believe, the engine in the partial Supra kit I have on the shelf. The Nissan RB26DETT seems a better choice. I'll look into it. Again, thanks for the responses. Much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbwelda Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) you used to be able to get that engine set really cheap (relatively speaking) on amazon. go take a look for it there, I think hlj has been out of them recently. there is good detail to them but it is mostly molded in and I am not expert enough to say if its accurate or not. here is a link that might help: http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=93142&hl=fujimi jb Edited May 31, 2015 by jbwelda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 Thanks again, Mr. Welda. i'll definitely follow that lead down. The pix of the engine look plenty good enough for what I have in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 Thanks Miles. I appreciate the response. All the 180 SX kits I've looked at so far appear to be earlier designs than the S-14, maybe one generation back, S-13? The unibody appears to be based on the same front frame rail stampings, but the floor, gas tank location, etc. appear to be different on the one's I've been able to locate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Thanks again, Mr. Welda. i'll definitely follow that lead down. The pix of the engine look plenty good enough for what I have in mind. That engine also comes in this kit, there are two complete engines in this kit http://www.hlj.com/product/FUJ17022/Aut Here is a link to that set at HLJ, you can back order it http://www.hlj.com/product/FUJ11114/Aut Or if you dont want to wait http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fujimi-1-24-NOSTALGIC-RACER-TUNING-PARTS-11114-/271280651223?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f29963bd7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTK Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I apologize for posting in both threads, I didn't see this question until later on after I posted. Correct, all 180SX cars were built on the S13 chassis. Although similar, they're not the same. On the chassis you're looking for (S14) they only came in two models. The 240sx in the US and the Silvia in EU, Jap, etc. I did some searching and found that there was an S13 model kit made by Aoshima that came with a fully detailed engine bay and an SR20 swap. The S13 chassis is similar enough that should be able to kit bash the front half of the chassis' together and make a fully detailed S14. All the photos attached are of the S13 model kit with the engine bay. Hopefully you can find some pictures of the S14 chassis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbwelda Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) its probably the exact sprues that come in the parts back, they were obviously sourced elsewhere and extra stuff looks to have been snipped off with some sprue cutters...by hand. that's an even better deal at hlj than I got, if they indeed get it in. its amazing how stuff from japan has dropped in price in the past year. another thing: if you are going to run webers or similar might find them elsewhere, the carbs on those motors approach bloblike quality. some from say the accurate miniatures corvettes or replica and miniatures will look far better. jb Edited May 31, 2015 by jbwelda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijsgrit Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I had the Same issues with it's onder sister..., The S13. I built the Rasty verdien and added the Engine of an other S13, full detail. Nice part about the Rasty kit (i believe it is Aoshima) was that it has no engine but a well usable engine bay. I also used 1999...... site to look up the contents of these kits. Good luck and I'm looking forward to this build! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Nice part about the Rasty kit (i believe it is Aoshima) was that it has no engine but a well usable engine bay. The Rasty kit is tooled from the same tooling S13 as the one with the engine insert , that is why it has a usable engine bay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijsgrit Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 The Rasty kit is tooled from the same tooling S13 as the one with the engine insert , that is why it has a usable engine bay Yep... Hopin' there's some same tooling going on for the S14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) Again, a big thanks to all for the help. I fell instantly in love with the recent Rocket Bunny mods for the 240, and the plan is to build this... Edited May 31, 2015 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin T Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Again, a big thanks to all for the help. I fell instantly in love with the recent Rocket Bunny mods for the 240, and the plan is to build this... Keep your eyes on some of the resin guys from Asia as they love producing body kits,I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they made a transkit of this body kit. http://www.eightyone81.com/ Tends to have a lot of RB/LW kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 Keep your eyes on some of the resin guys from Asia as they love producing body kits,I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they made a transkit of this body kit. http://www.eightyone81.com/ Tends to have a lot of RB/LW kits. Thanks Austin. Great stuff on that site. I'm really getting interested in these contemporary hot rods. Lots to learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 Skylar, thanks again for taking the time to get this info to me. Very much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijsgrit Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Thanks Austin. Great stuff on that site. I'm really getting interested in these contemporary hot rods. Lots to learn. My suggestion would be to contact them and let em know your wishes. So did I. Some great stuff is coming soon...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Bill, its not Rocket Bunny, but its wide body http://www.hlj.com/product/AOS00889/Aut I am currently working on that kit right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 Bill, its not Rocket Bunny, but its wide body http://www.hlj.com/product/AOS00889/Aut I am currently working on that kit right now I LIKE that. I'm getting interested in this genre. Most of the "tuner" cars around here are stock-sounding, auto-trans piles with fart-can exhausts, lowered to the point the fenders are scrubbing the tires, and a bunch of decals, or silly body kits flapping in the breeze. There is an old 240Z locally, running a turboed DOHC Toyo or Nissan six, and occasionally I see something else decent...but nothing like the well-turned-out cars I've become aware of recently due to guys like you on this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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