tim boyd Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 Count me in - big time - on a '26T/'27T Turtledeck hot rod kit. TIM
ChrisBcritter Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 Altered States' body needs a little correction in its body contours: Maybe combine the cowl and doors from the AMT '27 T touring with the back of an Ala Kart body? But you'd still be stuck for the turtledeck. AMT really should have done this long ago for its '27 kit...
Art Anderson Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 Building one out od AMT's 1925 kit is VERY doable Not even close! Body shapes and dimensions of the '25 are considerably different from the '26-'27. It can be done, however, by using the forward half of either Revell's '26 T Touring, or AMT's '27 (AMT's is more accurately done, BTW), as the rear panel of the front seat of the touring car is virtually the same as the back panel of the '26-'27 T roadster. That leaves only the "Turtledeck" trunk, which can be fabricated from sheet and strip styrene (I've done it as a resin master back over 20 yrs ago (several people who read these boards have that resin body shell). But still, I've been lobbying for a '27 T roadster/coupe kit done along the lines of AMT's '25 Double Kit (Did you know that AMT Corporation orginally advertised a '27 T Roadster/Coupe Double Kit before it wound up as the Touring Car/XR-6? This was on their first "Sell Sheet" when they announced a '27 T!) Art Art
Muncie Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 Plastic would be good. I have less trouble or hassle building with plastic. Just got the Jimmy Flintsone roadster - good loooking body with track nose hood - will require minimal clean-up - recommended yes. Have one of Art's All American Models resin bodies trimmed for '32 frame in the dormant project archive. It really shows Art's attention to accurate detail.
unclescott58 Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 I know the rear deck is a big difference between a '25 and earlier, and a '26-'27 is roadster and coupe. The front end is also different. It would be nice if somebody could (sorry I can not) post pictures comparing the '25 and earlier Ts to the '26 and '27. So we can see the difference and maybe get more people fired up over this idea. Scott
Art Anderson Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 I know the rear deck is a big difference between a '25 and earlier, and a '26-'27 is roadster and coupe. The front end is also different. It would be nice if somebody could (sorry I can not) post pictures comparing the '25 and earlier Ts to the '26 and '27. So we can see the difference and maybe get more people fired up over this idea. Scott Scott, the entire body of every '26-'27 Model T was newly styled for 1926--there were no carryover sheet metal panels whatsoever. Art
unclescott58 Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 Scott, the entire body of every '26-'27 Model T was newly styled for 1926--there were no carryover sheet metal panels whatsoever. Art Yes, but the general look was still there. I don't know if a lot of people can tell the difference without photos to compare them to. Scott
Art Anderson Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 Yes, but the general look was still there. I don't know if a lot of people can tell the difference without photos to compare them to. Scott Simply compare the front half of an AMT '27 T Touring body with a '25 Roadster, you'll see there are no panels even close to looking the same. Art
unclescott58 Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 Simply compare the front half of an AMT '27 T Touring body with a '25 Roadster, you'll see there are no panels even close to looking the same. Art Yes I know Art. I have both AMT kits. I'm just suggesting that comparison photos of the real thing would be nice here. To get a clearer idea of why one would want a '27 roadster, when a '25 is available. I know we can search for photos ourselves. But, that's not the point. It would be more interesting to see why some people would like a '27 T roadster. What do they like about the '27 over the '25?. Show us. I wish I could post photos here. If I could, I would do so. Scott
jbwelda Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 here is some resin 27s that are or were available: Tim Kings kit with belly pan, two track noses and separate hood: and I believe this is a 27 streamliner body by Fremont Resins, comes with a long and a short nose and some decals identifying the prototype car: and here is one of the All American Models 27 T that I built. it was a bit of a struggle but turned out pretty good: jb
slusher Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 Sounds great to me. Tool a '26-'27 body shell, throw in a couple of engines from amortized tooling...genius. More legs for existing tools, minimal development expense. Yes, i agree Bill
Greg Myers Posted July 7, 2015 Author Posted July 7, 2015 bit of a struggle but turned out pretty good: Yes it did
tim boyd Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 here is some resin 27s that are or were available: Tim Kings kit with belly pan, two track noses and separate hood: and here is one of the All American Models 27 T that I built. it was a bit of a struggle but turned out pretty good: jb JB - yes it did! Super Sharp! TIM
Greg Myers Posted July 7, 2015 Author Posted July 7, 2015 I know the rear deck is a big difference between a '25 and earlier, and a '26-'27 is roadster and coupe. The front end is also different. It would be nice if somebody could (sorry I can not) post pictures comparing the '25 and earlier Ts to the '26 and '27. So we can see the difference and maybe get more people fired up over this idea. Scott
Greg Myers Posted July 7, 2015 Author Posted July 7, 2015 I really don't see the need for a '26-'27 coupe as the difference between these and the '25 AMT has is so minor.
Greg Myers Posted July 7, 2015 Author Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) So Round2, get the jump on Revell and give us an update on your venerable Double Tee kits , ala 1926-'27. Good way to get back in the game as it were. Edited July 7, 2015 by Greg Myers
jbwelda Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 those photos illustrate at least one big difference that never really sank in for me: that the turtle deck is lower than the back of the body by a good measure on the earlier cars while it is flush with the body top in the latter ones. looks much better flush with the body top to me. jb
3100 chevy Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 I really don't see the need for a '26-'27 coupe as the difference between these and the '25 AMT has is so minor. I've got a 1/1 26 and the body is larger than a 25 especially the trunk and the front cowl. I think the largest similarity between the 25 and the 26 is the wheel base. The fenders I believe are way different though I never got to look to closely to compare the pair I have because they are hard to get too. Something cool is that they actually started producing the 26 style body in August 1925
3100 chevy Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) 1925 1926 1927 This one weighed a few hundred more pounds than the other Not sure about the other years 1924 1925 If you look closely a your pictures you can tell that the 26 fenders are more rolled over Belt line is different too I believe that the roadster is the same as the coupe except it is cut off above the belt line Edited July 7, 2015 by 3100 chevy
Art Anderson Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 1925 1926 1927 This one weighed a few hundred more pounds than the other image.jpg Not sure about the other years 1924 1925 image.jpg If you look closely a your pictures you can tell that the 26 fenders are more rolled over Belt line is different too I believe that the roadster is the same as the coupe except it is cut off above the belt line Actually, a '26-'27 T is perhaps only a 100lbs heavier than its predecessors, given that it's still the same size car, same track, same wheelbase, and pretty much the same sheetmetal over wood structure composite body construction. The roadster body is nothing at all comparable to the coupe, all shapes are different, nothing interchangeable save for the firewall. Art
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