Greg Myers Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) A repop of anyone of these would surely net them quite a profit. Edited September 10, 2015 by Greg Myers
mike 51 Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 They seem to have no interest in new products or meaningful updates of existing tools. It's a shame....
hack-n-whack Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 I think Round 2 cannot afford new tooling yet, so they are just doing re-issues hoping to generate enough revenue for some new tooling in the future. Just my opinion. Hack-n-whack
gtx6970 Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) A repop of anyone of these would surely net them quite a profit. I for one cant imagine producing a product thats already / currently avail by your competition on the market being profitable. But then again, I have ZERO interest in said product line so my opinion is probably moot point anyway Edited September 10, 2015 by gtx6970
Ace-Garageguy Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) I for one cant imagine producing a product thats already / currently avail by your competition on the market being profitable.I see it as a logical move, frankly, because there's so much enthusiasm...think free advertising... about the new Revell '29 kit, and the mix-and-match possibilities between it and the older kits is infinite.Amazingly, many modelers seem to be unaware that AMT and even Revell made very nice model A kits previously.R2 HAS restored some older kits to original-content condition ('36 Ford, '32 Vicky) and has added or up-graded parts as well (the very nice chrome-reverse rims and whitewall tires in the '36).And though I know it'll NEVER happen, I'd sure like to see the original Ala Kart tooling restored. Edited September 10, 2015 by Ace-Garageguy
Greg Myers Posted September 10, 2015 Author Posted September 10, 2015 I think Round 2 cannot afford new tooling yet, so they are just doing re-issues hoping to generate enough revenue for some new tooling in the future. Just my opinion. Hack-n-whack These aren't "New" tools. Just pull out the old molds and shoot some hot plastic into 'em. Instant profit.
Ace-Garageguy Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 R2 HAS spent money on restoring old tooling, re-creating parts that were lost entirely.
Greg Myers Posted September 10, 2015 Author Posted September 10, 2015 Here's a good example : http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/topic/105540-stovebolt/
Roadrunner Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 Here's a good example : http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/topic/105540-stovebolt/ I hadn't realized that kit could also be built stock: I'll be grabbing a couple now. Thanks.
Junkman Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 I think Round 2 cannot afford new tooling yet...Which comes as a surprise considering they charge new kit prices for their old tat.Then again, it's not surprising considering what rubbish they chose to reissue.
stavanzer Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 The last Issue of the A in the Walmart boxing, had about 60% of the Ala Kart in the box, including the unique Ala Kart grille insert (but not the Grille shell). And the hood. The Fenders, Body, Tuck& roll top, and Interior are there too. The Frame is there, but most of the suspension has been altered.The Ala Kart Bed is missing too,The Chrome tree, that featured the "Red Ram Hemi" valve covers, Firewall, and windshield frame, is in the kit, but not chromed, and with about half of the parts that were on it blocked off. I'm not sure that they can be restored.IMHO, it would be a better bet to re-tool this kit back to original, rather than try to foist the early 2000's new tool Ala Kart on us.That dog of a kit is rightly condemned. Alan
Greg Myers Posted September 10, 2015 Author Posted September 10, 2015 Which comes as a surprise considering they charge new kit prices for their old tat.Then again, it's not surprising considering what rubbish they chose to reissue. Then again . . .
Dennis Lacy Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 Which comes as a surprise considering they charge new kit prices for their old tat.Then again, it's not surprising considering what rubbish they chose to reissue. I hardly think it's fair to condemn them all as rubbish. I don't have a personal interest in every single kit they have re-released but all of the Double T's, Double Dragster, '32 Vicky, '36 Coupe/Roadster, '37 Chevy Coupe and others like them restored back to their original configurations with vintage parts that hadn't been available for decades are treasure troves of hot rod parts for serious kit bashers and fanatics of pre-70's Traditional Hot Rods. The parts count, alone, justifies the price tag and is totally competitive among other US-brand car kits like Revell and Monogram. In some of those cases you get enough parts in the box to assemble two complete vehicles!
Greg Myers Posted September 10, 2015 Author Posted September 10, 2015 surprising considering what one gets . . .
Greg Myers Posted September 10, 2015 Author Posted September 10, 2015 And just the quality of these kits :
Junkman Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 OK, I do realise that not everyone has stacks of these from the first, second, third...umpteenth time around, but I have.Plus, previous issues of most of these kits are floating around in abundance for less than the reissues.THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH!
Greg Myers Posted September 10, 2015 Author Posted September 10, 2015 The point here, however, is the fact that the AMT '29 Roadster kit HASN'T been around for awhile and even as you have pointed out YOU have stacks,but others don't. They've used them up and others still aren't even aware they even existed. So why not take advantage of the hype ,attention, interest the hobby is affording them ? and look at all the stock parts and fenders the new Revell kit doesn't have. A no brainer.
Dennis Lacy Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 The point here, however, is the fact that the AMT '29 Roadster kit HASN'T been around for awhile and even as you have pointed out YOU have stacks,but others don't. They've used them up and others still aren't even aware they even existed. So why not take advantage of the hype ,attention, interest the hobby is affording them ? and look at all the stock parts and fenders the new Revell kit doesn't have. A no brainer. The other point is that while a lot of these kits have been reissued many times over the last 3 decades most of those reissues don't have all of the awesome vintage hot rod and custom parts that the original and recently restored to original issues do. That makes them a very valuable asset to the hobby and worth the cost. Sure, you can buy cheap 80's and 90's issues of the AMT Model A Roadster and '32 Ford kits at model shows or on Ebay and end up with awful looking 70's wheels and equally awful mile-wide hollow vinyl tires, boring engine parts and worthless decal sheets. In those old '32 kits (for example) the neat parts are the incentive, the horribly ill proportioned "sheet metal" sure isn't.
slusher Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 I am glad to see Round 2 restoring tooling and bringing back old kits. The stuff they have done has been great and who knows what may be coming back out on down the line...
unclescott58 Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 Box art can induce to buy a kit. In Greg's first posting on this subject, the sixth box down, with the AMT 25 Annivesary logo, somehow appeals to me. That version came out in 1973. They reissued several old kits with new box art for their 25th Anniversary. And because of that box art, I wanted to buy them all. But, at 15 I didn't have the money to run out and buy them all. I bought a few, and other models, but I the missed the A. Not being a big Model A fan and few others of the boxes the kit came in over the years has appealed me. So, I've never owned the kit. The right box art could get me to part with my money.
stavanzer Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 I have two of the 25th anniversary, Yellow box Model A kits. Got Both from eBay, about 10 years ago.This was one of the first model car kits I ever built (in 6th grade). That Box art is imprinted in my memory forever.Bring that kit, back to the way it was originally, use that Yellow Box Art, and give us an expooanded decal sheet, and I'm in for a case!
FordRodnKustom Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) I hardly think it's fair to condemn them all as rubbish. I don't have a personal interest in every single kit they have re-released but all of the Double T's, Double Dragster, '32 Vicky, '36 Coupe/Roadster, '37 Chevy Coupe and others like them restored back to their original configurations with vintage parts that hadn't been available for decades are treasure troves of hot rod parts for serious kit bashers and fanatics of pre-70's Traditional Hot Rods. The parts count, alone, justifies the price tag and is totally competitive among other US-brand car kits like Revell and Monogram. In some of those cases you get enough parts in the box to assemble two complete vehicles! I agree 100% This is the yellow box art version on my "to do" list. Edited September 11, 2015 by FordRodnKustom
Draggon Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 I agree 100% This is the yellow box art version on my "to do" list. I like that "competition Ala Kart" pic at the bottom right of this pic. I have 2 of the new tool Ala Kart kits minus wheels, tires, and engine that I've had no idea what to do with.
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