Whats new for 2016?

[Bennyg]

Hopefully Moebius and Italeri release something new in 2016. I'm hanging for Drake to release the K200 Kenworth and Drake Low Loader. 

 

Ben

[Junkman]

This is announced for March:

[Fat Brian]

Buying re-issues will not fund new kits in the future, it will only fund more re-issues. The problem is that AMT doesn't really exist, it's just a label for R2 to slap on a box. Same thing for MPC and even Ertl.

Again, a lot of the reissues are new to me so I'll continue to buy them for now, whether it causes that particular company to ever tool another new kit is largely out of my control. I will continue to support Moebius with my dollars and hopefully they will see fit to continue to produce more semi kits. Personally, I hope whatever they make is an older truck because the new trucks really don't interest me enough to buy large numbers of them. I would buy multiples of a CL9000, Mack B model, Mack R700, Pete 379, Pete 350, Needlenose Kenworth, Bullnose Kenworth, Crackerbox GMC, and several more where I would only buy one new Kenworth, Pete, or Freightliner.

[chuckyr]

Well Said! I have some moebius kits, just not big rigs because i dont like modern trucks, im just not that into them, especially the aerodynamically styled trucks lime the prostar and lonestar, and i am in no way a casual truck builder, thats basically all i build, old iroolds what flips my trigger so i for one am ecstatic about round 2's reissues.

just not big rigs because i dont like modern trucks

So why are you posting on the Model Trucks boards?

Edited December 22, 2015 by chuckyr

[Petetrucker07]

Oh boy, here we go again.

[Rob Hall]

The AMT Alaskan Hauler would be a neat kit to see reissued, as would the AMT Peterbilt 352 'Turnpiker' with the large front bumper.   

[Fat Brian]

All of the trucks that you mentioned are available in resin, if you truly are a "truck guy" then you would know that. I know, you don't want resin. Resin costs too much and you can't afford it....

Wow, why so salty? I know they're available in resin, that doesn't change the fact that a plastic version would be nice. I have a lot of resin and will buy more but I'd still like to see mass produced versions of these kits.

[guitarsam326]

 

So why are you posting on the Model Trucks boards?

because i build older trucks, like i stated...

Edited December 22, 2015 by guitarsam326

[chuckyr]

because i build older trucks, like i stated...

Well as was stated above, resin is the only way you are going to get your obscure older truck. 

The Moebius representative stated last year in a thread that offering older truck subjects are a problem.

This question is brought up all the time.

Old trucks could be interesting - they present their own set of problems - Modern trucks can be developend from CAD files - that is not too dificult.

Old trucks will have to be done from photography . Just finding a truck to photograph and measure then getting all the photos needed can be a probelm - then we have to translate 2 dimensional photos into a 3 dimensional model.

 

A Big truck from photos - that could be a nightmare!

It's tough enough to photograph and measure a car that's about 4 ft tall, a big truck that's 10-12 ft tall really makes it tough to do!

We've discussed some classic older class 8 trucks we'd like to try to do but it still comes down to licensing - then we have the issues of how to get good information to develop a kit from.

 

We've looked at some of the old COE trucks that are around, many of those are hot rods - those are neat and might be fun subjects. Trying to do one factory stock would be a challenge, just finding an authentic truck to photgraph and measure could be tough..( you have to keep in mind that our entire staff consists of about 4 full time people, so we need to find a subject to photograph that is close to northern Indiana or close to Florida so one of us can drive to the location of the subject)

 

 

Edited December 22, 2015 by chuckyr

[KJ790]

I've always liked the saying "real models are built, not bought". I see a lot of the serious truck guys just finding ways to build what they want instead of begging and waiting for the model manufacturers to make what they want.

 

Another thing to think about, the best way to get a company to come out with new offerings is to support their current offerings. This is true for model manufacturers, as well as aftermarket manufacturers. If the sales are not there in a specific segment, then what incentive do they have to come out with more offerings in that segment? People always beg me to make resin parts, and when I do, 9 out of 10 of those people never buy one, they are already onto begging for a new part. If you haven't been buying all of Moebius' current big rig offerings, then don't just bug them to make new ones, get out there and buy a bunch of what they already have.

 

I don't care if companies come out with new things or reissues of the same old stuff, I will still buy it and find a way to enjoy it all.

Edited December 22, 2015 by KJ790

[chuckyr]

I've always liked the saying "real models are built, not bought". I see a lot of the serious truck guys just finding ways to build what they want instead of begging and waiting for the model manufacturers to make what they want.

 

Another thing to think about, the best way to get a company to come out with new offerings is to support their current offerings. This is true for model manufacturers, as well as aftermarket manufacturers. If the sales are not there in a specific segment, then what incentive do they have to come out with more offerings in that segment? People always beg me to make resin parts, and when I do, 9 out of 10 of those people never buy one, they are already onto begging for a new part. If you haven't been buying all of Moebius' current big rig offerings, then don't just bug them to make new ones, get out there and buy a bunch of what they already have.

 

I don't care if companies come out with new things or reissues of the same old stuff, I will still buy it and find a way to enjoy it all.

Your only saying this because you have done a double take!

 

[guitarsam326]

Well as was stated above, resin is the only way you are going to get your obscure older truck. 

The Moebius representative stated last year in a thread that offering older truck subjects are a problem.

This question is brought up all the time.

 

All that is well and good, i dont expect new old truck kits, never said i did, i said i was happy to see the old kits reissued and i have a ton of resin so that problem is solved too.

[chuckyr]

All that is well and good, i dont expect new old truck kits, never said i did, i said i was happy to see the old kits reissued and i have a ton of resin so that problem is solved too.

All is well and good.  New trucks kits are reserved for new modern subjects, not old obscure stuff.

[KJ790]

Your only saying this because you have done a double take!

I say it because it is true. Want to see more truck models on the market? Go out and buy the ones that are currently out there. Sales speak way louder than any email or request on a facebook page ever will.

[guitarsam326]

All is well and good.  New trucks kits are reserved for new modern subjects, not old obscure stuff.

So IF, and that is a big fat IF a model manufacturer were to produce an old truck that has never been produced before, does that mean it isnt new or doesnt have the right to be called new? This junk can be talked to death and everyone has their own opinion but i see no reason for blasting out against reissued kits or anyone who enjoys those reissued "obscure" kits. If this site contains casual truck builders and there are better sites out there, then why troll this site?

[chuckyr]

I say it because it is true. Want to see more truck models on the market? Go out and buy the ones that are currently out there. Sales speak way louder than any email or request on a facebook page ever will.

I have all the latest Moebius and Italeri kits.  I can't support these companies by myself.

[chuckyr]

So IF, and that is a big fat IF a model manufacturer were to produce an old truck that has never been produced before, does that mean it isnt new or doesnt have the right to be called new? This junk can be talked to death and everyone has their own opinion but i see no reason for blasting out against reissued kits or anyone who enjoys those reissued "obscure" kits. If this site contains casual truck builders and there are better sites out there, then why troll this site?

Troll?  I've been a member of this site way longer than you.  In fact, I said a long time ago when the administrator decided to combine big rigs and picks in to one board, big rig modelers would eventually be overwhelmed by pick up and car modelers.

And yes, wanting older truck subjects new plastic is obscure.

 

Re-read the comment by the Moebius representative.

 

 

 

 

 

[guitarsam326]

Troll?  I've been a member of this site way longer than you.  In fact, I said a long time ago when the administrator decided to combine big rigs and picks in to one board, big rig modelers would eventually be overwhelmed by pick up and car modelers.

And yes, wanting older truck subjects new plastic is obscure.

 

Re-read the comment by the Moebius representative.

 

 

 

 

 

you missed my point totally...

[Petetrucker07]

Somebody call 911!

 

The plane is desending, rapidly.

 

[Bennyg]

I've always liked the saying "real models are built, not bought". I see a lot of the serious truck guys just finding ways to build what they want instead of begging and waiting for the model manufacturers to make what they want.

 

Another thing to think about, the best way to get a company to come out with new offerings is to support their current offerings. This is true for model manufacturers, as well as aftermarket manufacturers. If the sales are not there in a specific segment, then what incentive do they have to come out with more offerings in that segment? People always beg me to make resin parts, and when I do, 9 out of 10 of those people never buy one, they are already onto begging for a new part. If you haven't been buying all of Moebius' current big rig offerings, then don't just bug them to make new ones, get out there and buy a bunch of what they already have.

 

I don't care if companies come out with new things or reissues of the same old stuff, I will still buy it and find a way to enjoy it all.

I think you have the best points on this. I've personally purchased 3 LoneStars and 1 Prostar. I've built 1 LoneStar box stock, built 1 as a KW T904 and have another Lonestar in progress becoming a KW T904and a Prostar on the bench as well. 

 

Im looking at doing some 1/32 Mack parts for myself and thought if they turn out they might be worth casting but have had no one give me feedback on whether it's a good idea or not. Plan to do it for myself anyway. 

 

Ben

[KJ790]

I have all the latest Moebius and Italeri kits.  I can't support these companies by myself.

Great! Start posting all of the kits you bought on their facebook page. Show them how much you enjoy their current models. They need to see how many of us truck builders there are out there.

Edited December 23, 2015 by KJ790

[chuckyr]

Great! Start posting all of the kits you bought on their facebook page. Show them how much you enjoy their current models. They need to see how many of us truck builders there are out there.

Their balance book show how much I enjoy their kits.

[lapazleo]

I say reissues and new subjects both something for everybody.  Oh and since no ones pointed this out those old kits people complain about being reissued were of new and modern subjects when they were originally released. This is really a lame argument. Car modelers have subjects of all vintages no complaints there. Same for aircraft,model trains etc. Isn't it time to put this thread to bed?

[KJ790]

I agree with this, 100%

I can fully understand that some of the vintage AMT truck kits have a "nostalgic attraction". Kits like the Autocar Dump, Mack R model, Little Window Pete and KW 925 will always be highly sought after and I don't have a problem with that. However, when the re-issues flood the market it makes it very hard to sway that casual truck builder towards a new current truck that has a higher price, and this is what hurts the serious truck guys. Stop living in the past guys, those 40 year old AMT trucks fit like BLAH_BLAH_BLAH_BLAH when they were new, and they aren't any better now. 

 

Sounds like something a car modeler would say... talk about a lame argument.

I am confused as to why "serious truck guys" would only want to build modern trucks? I would consider myself a serious truck guy, and I am relatively young for this hobby. The thing that attracted me to this hobby to start with was that I could build trucks from 30-50 years ago. I never got to experience these first hand (as I am only 28 years old), so I would build based on photos and having a finished model made me feel like I could come closer to experiencing them.

 

Don't get me wrong, I love modern trucks as well, but I have no problem just scratch building what I want. I have scratch built a W900L, Freightliner Cascadia, detachable gooseneck lowboy, and a Timpte super hopper. I see tons of amazing scratch builds and resin conversions being built. I don't see how the lack of kits hurts the serious truck builders. It seems to me it only hurts the casual builders.

Edited December 24, 2015 by KJ790

[DRIPTROIT 71]

I've been following this thread from the beginning, and I have just one thing to say: Merry Christmas to you ALL!!!!