johnwitzke Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) MCW Resin has available 1963 Tempest that can be built into the Super Stock SD 421 cars. I purchase a couple of these kits and found them to be nicely done. The versions that I will be building is Mickey Thompson's Yorktown Blue prototype. This Tempest coupe has markings 755 AF/X on the doors and was driven by KS Pittman and Bill Shrewsberry. Second version, although not a factory SD421 car, but built with factory support was Arlen Vanke's Marimba Red "Running Bear" sponsored by Bill Knafel's Anderson Pontiac. The M/T car required modification to the rear glass, as the base Tempest had a larger rear window than the LeMans version. I have nearly completed the rear window, all that is left is the moldings. That said, the Vanke car, a base Tempest had the smaller LeMans rear window. Edited January 2, 2016 by johnwitzke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Most excellent projects. I'll be tuned-in for this one, all the way.I've been collecting bits to do the M/T car, based on an AMT '63 tempest gluebomb, and a what-if Olds FX car based on the Johan '62 F-85. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-409 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 This is very interesting as I think that '63 Tempest is probably the best looking Pontiac ever made and to be honest I've considered ordering that kit from MCW too, as I need to get a couple of their Chevy IIs. These will be very interesting projects so I'll be watching closely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobraman Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Great project idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disabled modeler Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) That looks nice..! Its the same car I have from my dads old collection but mine is a factory stock....once I find the needed parts to restore it the plan is to have the slant 4cyl engine in it.If anyone used the AMT AWB kit for the chassis and has no use for the rest please let me know. Edited January 2, 2016 by disabled modeler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59 Impala Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 I like this idea. I'm interested in the Knafel car fer sure. I've built 6 different Knafel cars and I'd like to see how yours comes out. Do you have decals for this car? If so, where did you get them. I'll be sure to follow this. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedotwo Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 These builds are right in my wheelhouse.... following. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwitzke Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 Dan, I have the decals for the Vanke/Anderson car. They came with the kit that I purchased from MCW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The70judgeman Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 It's a Pontiac...you've got my attention. One question though...does the kit come with the engine and transmission? If I'm not mistaken, in '63, the transmission was located in the rear creating an IRS and had a torque tube between the engine and tranny...like the latest couple/few generations of Corvette's. I went on the MCW site and there are no pictures. I'm just curious about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disabled modeler Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) It's a Pontiac...you've got my attention. One question though...does the kit come with the engine and transmission? If I'm not mistaken, in '63, the transmission was located in the rear creating an IRS and had a torque tube between the engine and tranny...like the latest couple/few generations of Corvette's. I went on the MCW site and there are no pictures. I'm just curious about that. Andy.... Yes they had a transaxle and torque tube in them....a friend of mine has a wagon with a 428ci ? SD in one hes building a drag car out of it. many had slant 4cyls in them which was 1/2 of a Pontiac 389ci basically so they were pretty easy swaps for a bigger engine. Edited January 2, 2016 by disabled modeler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59 Impala Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Thanks John. I might look into that kit. I'm from Akron and remember the Knafel cars. That's why I'm building some of their cars that ran back in the day. I also built a 2004 GTO as a what if if they were still in business and running drag cars. I'm looking forward to your build. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) Andy.... Yes they had a transaxle and torque tube in them....a friend of mine has a wagon with a 428ci ? SD in one hes building a drag car out of it. many had slant 4cyls in them which was 1/2 of a Pontiac 389ci basically so they were pretty easy swaps for a bigger engine.But of course (for anyone who may not be familiar with the FX cars built on this platform) the '62 "factory experimental" versions were fitted with big Poncho live rear axles and conventional driveshafts...and considerable structural surgery was required to make it all happen. Some '63 FX cars were built with a highly modified IRS trasnsaxle, turned into a 4-speed auto box by Pontiac engineers, but ultimately, reliability problems (short ring and pinion life) nixed the idea and most of the '63 SD cars were subsequently modified to use the big solid axle too. Edited January 3, 2016 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwitzke Posted January 3, 2016 Author Share Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) It is a complete kit with the SD 421 engine, although I may use a different SD 421. This is basically a resin of the original 1963 AMT kit. Like all resins there is a fair amount of clean up but I think it will build into a really nice model. Yes the torque tube is there on the chassis. Andy, I am a Pontiac guy so the Super Duty 421 cars are a natural for me. I have three 1963 Super Duty Tempest, Vanke's Anderson Pontiac, Mickey Thompson's prototype, and Beswick's wagon. I have two 1963 Super Duty Catalina's, Arlen Vanke's Swiss Cheese hardtop, and Edwards Pontiac 2 dr. sedan. For 1962 I have M/T Super Duty Tempest, Don Gay's Catalina 2 dr. sedan, Beswick's Catalina HT. , Barry Pontiac (Jesse Tyree) HT and Packer Pontiac HT. I may buy two more 1963 Tempest, the white Mickey Thompson coupe (749 A/FX), and another wagon. I have the correct decals for all of these cars. Dan, I know that Dave at MCW is limited on the number of decals that he has. You might check. The Knafel cars were cool and won a ton of races. Edited January 3, 2016 by johnwitzke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59 Impala Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Thanks John. I have a friend who lives in the Akron area and he used to work on the "Tin Indians" of Knafel Pontiac. I like your list of Pontiac's. I'm thinking of getting the 62 2dr sedan to build Royal Pontiac's Catalina. I have the decals for this car. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwitzke Posted January 20, 2016 Author Share Posted January 20, 2016 Update........ I will be bring updates throughout 2016 as each of the 6 LeMans 421 SD coupes and the two prototypes, along with Vanke's car will be built. Additionally, work will begin on 5 of the 6 Tempest 421 SD wagons. The sixth wagon, the only wagon that survives today and was delivered through Union Park Pontiac. Unfortunately this cars racing history is not as deep as the other five. I plan on making a plain white wagon to represent the Union Park delivered car. .....More to come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedfreak Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Wow, what a project(s). I'll be following along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louie Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 More to come, sounds good to me. I can't wait to see more of this and all the others. I have always wanted to get some stuff from MCW but money is always tight. His prices are very reasonable so maybe some day, but until then the next best thing is to follow this post. Thanks and I can't wait to see more. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintagercr Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I look forward to seeing progress shots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumpyDan Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I look forward to seeing progress shotsI am watching the progress also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwitzke Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) Decal update. For the coupes, I have the M/T 749 car, Arnie Beswick's car, the #50 nascar driven by Paul Goldsmith, recently acquired custom made sets of the Stan Long Pontiac driven by Stan Antlocer and George Delorean's Wynn Engineering car. I am having the Superior Pontiac decal custom made as well. That will give me all the coupes. For the wagons, I have Beswick's car, Arlen Vanke's "Papoose One" Anderson Pontiac car, and having the Al Hodges Pontiac, Van Winkle Pontiac and Royal Pontiac cars custom made. That will give me 5 of the 6 wagons. The 6th wagon was originally delivered to Union Park Pontiac (only wagon that has been accounted for) but sold off to a private racer with no sponsorship. Having to wait for warmer weather to do some painting!! Edited January 27, 2016 by johnwitzke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedfreak Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 That Wynn car looks nasty.Let'er roll! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwitzke Posted February 16, 2016 Author Share Posted February 16, 2016 (edited) Here is the first of the six 1963 Tempest 421SD wagons. The first three will be Beswick's car, Vanke Anderson Pontiac, and Royal cars. This one will be Beswicks Mrs. "B's" Grocery Getter. Van Winkle Pontiac and Al Hodges Pontiac cars to follow. Edited February 16, 2016 by johnwitzke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gino Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 very nice ! Pontiacs are my favorite !, watching ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disabled modeler Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 John....That wagon body is too cool...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk8erdave Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I'll be watching! Does anyone know if theres a 66 bonneville or catalina available as a model? My Dad has a 66 pontiac ventura, so I need the "full size" pontiac, not the goat to build a model of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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