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Hmmm.............I'm hoping what Pocher doesn't do is make the doors and such plastic such as in their 1:8 Porsche that I once had. Nice model but could have been so much better if it wasn't executed so "toy like". The plastic construction of the doors comes to mind on the Benz, due to the weight of them wouldn't be as much to support in the "up" position as much as diecast metal.

If indeed what Christian posted above is coming detail for detail from Pocher...........I dunno......

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I wouldn't mind springing for one of these myself Harry.........I might have to do something about that seam though if that's how it's going to be constructed. This would certainly be a first for a model this size to be a Benz (AFAIK), and it would look mighty impressive sitting on my coffee table.............in a case of course! Got to keep those cats away! :P

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Bill... I have the Porsche. No problem with the plastic body. The problem with that kit was the engine, which looked like a blob of plastic. I had to rebuild/scratchbuild the whole dang thing. To this day I still don't know how Pocher could engineer such a completely useless engine.

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So far Pocher (the original and the "re-born" company) have issued kits of only European cars. On the off chance that someone at the new Pocher sees this... hey guys, how about a Duesenberg? A Cord? A Pierce-Arrow?

Or... dare I ask... a Superbird or Daytona? B)

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I should say that this would be the first MODERN Benz that I've seen in this scale. How could I forget their other Benz's like the one I sold you Harry?  :P

The Porsche I had came with a lot of stuff to detail it with, especially for the engine.......I just flat out lost interest in it.

 

 

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I should say that this would be the first MODERN Benz that I've seen in this scale. How could I forget their other Benz's like the one I sold you Harry?  :P

Yep, they did a lot of '30s-era MBs. Now I'm looking forward to a modern MB from them. B)

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I am amazed by this news and hope it will be a real Pocher.

 

I've been reading through this topic and the suggestion of it might be from Eaglemoss, but looking at the pictures and specific details, I think the Pocher is too different on keypoints. My guess is that they are not the same, but that is just my humble opinion.

I am amazed by this news and hope it will be a real Pocher.

 

I've been reading through this topic and the suggestion of it might be from Eaglemoss, but looking at the pictures and specific details, I think the Pocher is too different on keypoints. My guess is that they are not the same, but that is just my humble opinion.

What key points do you see?

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Excellent kit! One day...one day I'm going to get a Pocher model kit. I wish they would make some of the older models, The vintage series, Bugatti, Mercedes...etc. They are going for $1500-$2000 on eBay.

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Hmmm.............I'm hoping what Pocher doesn't do is make the doors and such plastic such as in their 1:8 Porsche that I once had. Nice model but could have been so much better if it wasn't executed so "toy like". The plastic construction of the doors comes to mind on the Benz, due to the weight of them wouldn't be as much to support in the "up" position as much as diecast metal.

If indeed what Christian posted above is coming detail for detail from Pocher...........I dunno......

 

Guess a bit of this may have to do with what exactly is going on with those struts.  This is apparently from a different design team, but I can tell you the damped and spring-loaded hinges of the Aventador prop some beefy die cast door skins up pretty well.

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What key points do you see?

Well, now I had the oppertunity to look at more and different pictures, I have to revise my opinion and it does seem it is the same car, but it does have some improvements.

Look at the details at the dashboard (switches and dials) suitcase and engine details.

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The pictures bring up one assembly issue I find confusing. The Eaglemoss site shows separate kit "eyebrows" over the wheel wells, as on the early production Gullwings, which were bolted on, with visible welting, on cars through #379 in 1955; after that, according to the Adler book, they were "leaded on" for a more seamless look.Whatever that means. If the kit eyebrows are separate parts, they sure look seamless in the Pocher images, especially at the top of this page. The question being: how did Pocher get that seamless look without putty and repainting -- or did they change the Eaglemoss body??

 

 

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Seams or no seams, I'm ALL over it. Got my preorder in with scaleautoworks.com as of a couple days ago.

Yup! Did the same thing myself Chuck! When I'll build it, I'm not sure, but the kit in itself should be MIGHTY impressive! One of my favorite Benz's, and one of my all time favorites of the '50's. ;)

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The pictures bring up one assembly issue I find confusing. The Eaglemoss site shows separate kit "eyebrows" over the wheel wells, as on the early production Gullwings, which were bolted on, with visible welting, on cars through #379 in 1955; after that, according to the Adler book, they were "leaded on" for a more seamless look.Whatever that means. If the kit eyebrows are separate parts, they sure look seamless in the Pocher images, especially at the top of this page. The question being: how did Pocher get that seamless look without putty and repainting -- or did they change the Eaglemoss body??

 

 

Good question Skip....I was looking at pics over at scaleautoworks.com, and was looking especially close at this one.............

HK108b.jpg

If you take a look at the very leading edge of the fender brow, it looks as though Pocher may have faired them in on their rendition of the body, but left just an ever so slight undercut on the bottom part of the brow. It could just be the shadow of it due to the lighting, but it's an interesting observation just the same. 

Now I have to wonder with 1300+ parts to this kit, is the engine going to have working pistons and crankshaft just like their old Benz 500 K roadsters? ;)

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It's all over the European sites. This is definitely the Eaglemoss kit. Hence, the fast release time.

It is very well done with the above-mentioned roof seam excepted. Another strange thing missed by both companies is the kick up in the rocker panel aft of the front wheel. Suspect it was cheaper to mold the body without one.

http://cachastyle.blogspot.com/2011/07/picasa-web-albums-sofiaec10-59-fairlane_06.html

EDIT: scroll down the stupid site page to the side view and click on it to enlarge.

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