Posting Your Build on the Other Guy’s Thread

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  On 6/3/2016 at 2:31 AM, Tom Geiger said:

Great job guys! 

You take a thread about thread etiquette and hijack it to belittle a long standing member of this board!   What class!   Much worse than posting a model photo in someone's build thread!  (anyone else see irony here?)

I know Ron personally and always make sure to have a conversation at shows.  He's a great builder and you won't find a nicer person in the hobby. 

Ron is a friend of mine and I apologized to him for all the grief he was taking in the this thread.  That was absolutely not my intention.  In fact I thought about deleting the thread entirely because of this.

[StevenGuthmiller]

  On 6/3/2016 at 3:47 PM, afx said:

I saw that post after the fact so it wasn't the impetus.  I had noticed this happening, more than once, in the past and felt it was intrusive so I thought I would see what the forum's pulse was on the matter.

 

I think that you're going to find the "pulse" is inconclusive.

I'm guessing a good portion of us, (at least me) have never really thought about it.

Being as your not likely to stop it from happening, maybe for those that it bothers, a "warning" of some sort at the original posting to "please refrain from posting your builds on this thread" might be in order.

I guess if it bothers the OP, it should be his responsibility to try to stop it from taking place.

As i said, it never bothered me, so if anyone wants to post something on one of my threads, fire away.

Although, as some here have stated, a little relevance to the original post would be in order.

I guess I can't think of a time when that was not the case for me.

 

Steve

[philo426]

Yes maybe the op can indicate if the photo is unwelcome.The mods can enforce if things get contentious. 

[Harry P.]

Instead of making my life more difficult, how about you all just use common sense. Remember common sense?

If you're posting a photo on another guy's thread because you're answering a question or clarifying something regarding the topic, fine.

But don't post pictures of your own models and say "hey, look at me, I built that same model!" That's just rude.

[Ron Hamilton]

  On 6/3/2016 at 9:58 PM, Harry P. said:

Instead of making my life more difficult, how about you all just use common sense. Remember common sense?

If you're posting a photo on another guy's thread because you're answering a question or clarifying something regarding the topic, fine.

But don't post pictures of your own models and say "hey, look at me, I built that same model!" That's just rude.

I'm in complete agreement with you Harry, and to everyone else here, thanks for the supportive comments, and I feel that Scott is entitled to his opinion, and I am cool with it. From here on out, I will ask permission from the thread starter if I could post an example of one of my builds if they did not ask. I will only do it to enhance the thread at the builder's request, and not to "show up" the builder.

Life is too short for petty discussions. I am here for a good time, look at some great model projects, and to get some info on how to better my building efforts.

By the way, I am not ready to give up on Dad's Bonneville  as my signature. 

[Harry P.]

Ron... as a compromise, maybe cut it down in size a bit? Maybe 50%?

Personally it doesn't bother me in the least. But maybe for the sake of "family?" Just a suggestion, not a request or demand.

[Ron Hamilton]

  On 6/3/2016 at 10:38 PM, Harry P. said:

Ron... as a compromise, maybe cut it down in size a bit? Maybe 50%?

Personally it doesn't bother me in the least. But maybe for the sake of "family?" Just a suggestion, not a request or demand.

Harry,

 

I have tried to shrink it, but the system will not allow me to do it.

[Harry P.]

Maybe I can figure it out.

[Harry P.]

Ron... I changed it. Thanks for your understanding. Guys like you are what make this place great.

[highway]

Honestly in my opinion, and the last couple comments from Ron and Harry seem to go hand in hand with my opinion, most of the issue isn't the pic itself but the size of the image, and moreover it appearing as if it is part of a post. I know Ron has had that pic probably as long as I have been a member here, and that has been well over 5 and maybe closer to 10 years. Yeah, I even thought at first it was part of the post body, but after seeing it in every post he made, realized it was actually in the signature line because I noticed it was under his name. 

If this could be some or most of the issue with people thinking it is part of the post instead of the signature, maybe you could also add to your signature line "Pontiac Bonneville in loving memory of Dad" or something similar above it. 

 

[Roadrunner]

  On 6/3/2016 at 9:58 PM, Harry P. said:

 But don't post pictures of your own models and say "hey, look at me, I built that same model!" That's just rude.

I just had this same thing happen to me today (on a different forum). The guy said, "I hat a great time building this same kit", then posted a picture of his model. There was no real point to it at all, as far as I can see, other than to showcase his own work.

[Tom Geiger]

  On 6/4/2016 at 1:09 AM, Roadrunner said:

I just had this same thing happen to me today (on a different forum). The guy said, "I hat a great time building this same kit", then posted a picture of his model. There was no real point to it at all, as far as I can see, other than to showcase his own work.

Or to build some camaraderie with you!    Seriously folks, this is just plain silly,  For the record, when I post my builds, feel free to post your builds of the same kit or anything else you want to share.  Then it becomes a cool thread about that model kit.  And I'm all for that!

[martinfan5]

One thing I am curious about,  is how Ron( please note Ron, I take no offense to the photo in your sig line) was able to have the photo at the large size,  I know on this current version of the forum software, max size is 150x150 I believe.  Was there not a size limit on the older software version ?

[StevenGuthmiller]

  On 6/4/2016 at 1:29 AM, Tom Geiger said:

Or to build some camaraderie with you!    Seriously folks, this is just plain silly,  For the record, when I post my builds, feel free to post your builds of the same kit or anything else you want to share.  Then it becomes a cool thread about that model kit.  And I'm all for that!

I agree Tom.

I think it's a little silly too.

I have posted photos of my builds on other peoples threads, mostly WIP threads to show what I did with the same kit.

My motivation was the fact that almost all of the kits that I've built in the past 5 years have been vintage kits, & I personally would like to see anything that anyone has done with those types of kits.

I guess From what I'm hearing, I was mistaken.

Even a photo of a build to show something as small as a paint color or a particular technique that was used to achieve a certain affect is always welcome to me.

These forums are supposed to be about discussion & interaction, & as far as I'm concerned, a picture is worth a thousand words.

It never even crossed my mind that anyone would be offended or feel that their "thunder" was being stolen by having a photo posted on their thread.

So, in the future, I will refrain from posting anything on another persons thread without permission.

I guess the PC society that we are living in today has infiltrated pretty much every aspect of our lives, why not here as well?

 

Steve

[Ace-Garageguy]

  On 6/4/2016 at 2:30 AM, StevenGuthmiller said:

I guess the PC society that we are living in today has infiltrated pretty much every aspect of our lives, why not here as well?

Steve

I don't believe common courtesy is PC, frankly. It's the other way around. PC has a lot to do with a misguided sense of entitlement. And PC has come about because people have forgotten how to be polite and courteous and considerate to each other...as individuals.

Do YOU (and please...this is NOT directed at Steve specifically) think you're entitled to post photos of your own build on someone else's thread without being invited?

Do you go into an art gallery and start scribbling all over the work to show everyone how YOU would have done it?

I certainly don't.

Not respecting someone's individual thread, and trying to make it about oneself, is just plain rude.

When the OP ASKS for input as to how to do something, or opinion, or suggestions, or what went wrong, or how other folks have done it, etc. then putting up a shot (or an in-depth technical description of something that's misunderstood or questioned) is entirely acceptable, helpful and appropriate.

But respect for individuals and the fact THEY MAY NOT WANT YOUR PHOTO on their thread isn't PC. It's called consideration.

Cramming your own photo into some other individual's thread when it's not asked for is rude and inconsiderate.

Before you post a photo of your own model on someone's thread, why not ASK if they would like it or mind? 

Solves the entire issue, like considerate adults. The OP has the option of saying yes or no.

 

Edited June 4, 2016 by Ace-Garageguy

[MrBuick]

  On 6/4/2016 at 3:08 AM, Ace-Garageguy said:

I don't believe common courtesy is PC, frankly. It's the other way around. PC has a lot to do with a misguided sense of entitlement. And PC has come about because people have forgotten how to be polite and courteous and considerate to each other...as individuals.

Do YOU (and please...this is NOT directed at Steve specifically) think you're entitled to post photos of your own build on someone else's thread without being invited?

Do you go into an art gallery and start scribbling all over the work to show everyone how YOU would have done it?

I certainly don't.

Not respecting someone's individual thread, and trying to make it about oneself, is just plain rude.

When the OP ASKS for input as to how to do something, or opinion, or suggestions, or what went wrong, or how other folks have done it, etc. then putting up a shot (or an in-depth technical description of something that's misunderstood or questioned) is entirely acceptable, helpful and appropriate.

But respect for individuals and the fact THEY MAY NOT WANT YOUR PHOTO on their thread isn't PC. It's called consideration.

Cramming your own photo into some other individual's thread when it's not asked for is rude and inconsiderate.

Before you post a photo of your own model on someone's thread, why not ASK if they would like it or mind? 

Solves the entire issue, like considerate adults. The OP has the option of saying yes or no.

 

I agree, and this is very well put. Aside from being rude and inconsiderate, I really just don't see the point (unless advice is requested), ESPECIALLY if it's in the Under Glass section. So, someone posts a completed build, and you've built that same model? Good for you...feel free to start a thread of your own showcasing it. You can comment on their build and mention you had fun with the same kit without posting a picture of it. I really doubt anyone posting their build in someone else's thread deliberately means to be rude, but it's nearly impossible to avoid coming across as showboating and trying to turn attention from someone else's build to their own. It's NOT about being PC, it's about not coming across as an attention-seeking 15-year-old.

[highway]

  On 6/4/2016 at 2:30 AM, StevenGuthmiller said:

I agree Tom.

I think it's a little silly too.

I have posted photos of my builds on other peoples threads, mostly WIP threads to show what I did with the same kit.

My motivation was the fact that almost all of the kits that I've built in the past 5 years have been vintage kits, & I personally would like to see anything that anyone has done with those types of kits.

I guess From what I'm hearing, I was mistaken.

Even a photo of a build to show something as small as a paint color or a particular technique that was used to achieve a certain affect is always welcome to me.

These forums are supposed to be about discussion & interaction, & as far as I'm concerned, a picture is worth a thousand words.

It never even crossed my mind that anyone would be offended or feel that their "thunder" was being stolen by having a photo posted on their thread.

So, in the future, I will refrain from posting anything on another persons thread without permission.

I guess the PC society that we are living in today has infiltrated pretty much every aspect of our lives, why not here as well?

 

Steve

  On 6/4/2016 at 3:08 AM, Ace-Garageguy said:

I don't believe common courtesy is PC, frankly. It's the other way around. PC has a lot to do with a misguided sense of entitlement. And PC has come about because people have forgotten how to be polite and courteous and considerate to each other...as individuals.

Do YOU think you're entitled to post photos of your own build on someone else's thread without being invited?

Do you go into an art gallery and start scribbling all over the work to show everyone how YOU would have done it?

I certainly don't.

Not respecting someone's individual thread, and trying to make it about oneself, is just plain rude.

When the OP ASKS for input as to how to do something, or opinion, or suggestions, etc. then putting up a shot (or an in-depth technical description of something that's misunderstood or questioned) is entirely acceptable.

But respect for individuals and the fact THEY MAY NOT WANT YOUR PHOTO on their thread isn't PC. It's called consideration.

Cramming your own photo into some other individual's thread when it's not asked for is rude and inconsiderate.

Before you post a photo of your own model on someone's thread, why not ASK if they would like it or mind? 

Solves the entire issue, like considerate adults. The OP has the option of saying yes or no.

 

My opinion, if someone has a WIP thread and is asking for advice on something, sometimes the BEST  way to offer that advice is to POST A PIC AND EXPLAIN IT!! There are some that may not fully understand just reading an explanation fully without a little visual aid to go along with it, or in my case when I've asked for opinions on something I'm considering for a build, actually seeing what someone has done similar or even the same idea on the same model makes me decide easier actually seeing it whether that is something I want to consider on my build or not. I welcome pics that are meant to be an aid in any WIP thread I have, and have posted pics meant to help in others WIP threads to explain a point. 

On the other hand, if it is a FINISHED build thread, then have a little taste and class and leave the thread to pics of the model that the person who started the thread and built the model the thread is for and only that build. If I post a finished build, comments are welcome but nothing, and I would be the first to tell anyone posting their builds in an under glass post I'd start pics of their build are not welcome in my thread! 

[StevenGuthmiller]

  On 6/4/2016 at 3:08 AM, Ace-Garageguy said:

I don't believe common courtesy is PC, frankly. It's the other way around. PC has a lot to do with a misguided sense of entitlement. And PC has come about because people have forgotten how to be polite and courteous and considerate to each other...as individuals.

Do YOU think you're entitled to post photos of your own build on someone else's thread without being invited?

Do you go into an art gallery and start scribbling all over the work to show everyone how YOU would have done it?

I certainly don't.

Not respecting someone's individual thread, and trying to make it about oneself, is just plain rude.

When the OP ASKS for input as to how to do something, or opinion, or suggestions, etc. then putting up a shot (or an in-depth technical description of something that's misunderstood or questioned) is entirely acceptable.

But respect for individuals and the fact THEY MAY NOT WANT YOUR PHOTO on their thread isn't PC. It's called consideration.

Cramming your own photo into some other individual's thread when it's not asked for is rude and inconsiderate.

Before you post a photo of your own model on someone's thread, why not ASK if they would like it or mind? 

Solves the entire issue, like considerate adults. The OP has the option of saying yes or no.

 

I consider it PC when you feel like you have to walk on egg shells for fear of offending someone.

I think this post illustrates that fear & why it's become so prevalent in our society.

I can't do this, it might offend person A.

I can't show that, it may offend person B.

Exactly what is acceptable to "everyone".

I don't know, do you?

It's perfectly acceptable to me to have people post their photos on my threads.

Seems it's acceptable to Tom.

Are we wrong?

Are you right?

I personally am very tired of trying to decipher what is acceptable & what is not to every individual on the planet.

This is a "public forum".

It is not our "private space"

We can not expect to not have our space encroached upon.

As I don't wish to start another testosterone fueled pissing match, I'll just leave it at that & conclude by saying, I have no problem with photos on my threads.

I am not offended, I don't feel that you're being un-courteous by doing so.

I guess I'm just an oddball.

 

 

Steve

[Harry P.]

Ok, this has gone on long enough.