tread width on cheater slicks

[Jon Haigwood]

I am building a era correct 64 Ramcharger Dodge from the Lindberg Ramcharger kit. I need the hood scoop as I have already  used the one in the kit for a Super Stock street build (little Old Lady car) using the Color Me Gone kit. It is too bad that Lindberg did not put the correct slicks in the kit (9") in the first place but thats what keeps us thinking on how to solve our problems. I use some AMT Parts Pak Vintage Pie Crust slicks on a 64 Belvadere Super Stock street racer and they were 9" scale. (labeled as 8-20" 15"

And yes 7" do look small but that's what I need for this build.

Thanks for all the information given here

And thanks berr13 that is what I needed to know.

6bbllbird maybe we can work something out on the 64 scoop

Thanks everybody learned a lot here as always

I will order the slicks from Speed City

[6bblbird]

Send me your snail mail address and I'll get it out to you.

Message me at frey426@verizon.net.

WF

[gtx6970]

I try to build my old super stockers accurate, within reason. It comes down to try and replicate a car at a particular time.

Don't hold me to this but I don't think a 10" rear tire was even avail in 64 was it ?  I think the biggest back then was an 8" or MAYBE a 9" rear tire. ????????

A good example when you can use the Lindberg supplied tires is something like this one. Its a 64 Dodge Iron Butterfly SS . Its a true SS car, but wasn't  campaigned till late 60s time frame

 

[gtx6970]

Driven by Wally Booth early on, then later by  Dick Oldfield

Edited December 18, 2016 by gtx6970

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Driven by Wally Booth early one, then later by  Dick Oldfield

What I really like about these pics is they show a higher ride height than the Lindberg models depict.  The rear wheel is clearly below the fender lip, plus the tire is quite a bit wider than 7".  The tire really fills up the fenderwell and makes for a better looking model, my opinion.  Also the front tire fills the well nicely, letting the model appear to be more realistic.  The front well on the model is way out of shape, my opinion.  Makes the model look too "front heavy".

The Lindberg '64 Dodge is a nice model, just needs some adjustments.  The door post is also too wide on the model, a fingernail file comes in handy here.  I've built one, and have a couple for future exentual projects. 

Personally, I really like the 'Iron Butterfly' Dodge.  That is the way I remeber them.

[gtx6970]

Agreed, The Lindberg 64 Dodge is probably the one Ive built the most ( have 4 completed so far,,none as the Ramchargers car )

 

ps, this is how the Iron Butterfly looks today

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Thanks for showing Bill.  Look how small the door post appears!

Great info.

[mr68gts]

Im not home to measure for a few days but how wide are the  cheater slicks in the Johan SS cars? I know for a while someone was reproducing them in rubber. Maybe replicas and miniatures? 

P

[Mike Chernecki]

Im not home to measure for a few days but how wide are the  cheater slicks in the Johan SS cars? I know for a while someone was reproducing them in rubber. Maybe replicas and miniatures? 

P

Replicas & Miniatures does a cheater slick in hard black resin, not sure if it the Johan SS slick, I have a set of the R&M slicks at home.

Anyone looks at the slick from the new amt Surf Woody? http://www.collectormodel.com/round2-models/2508-amt-mpc-cars-trucks-the-devil-is-in-the-details/#comments

 

[Ace-Garageguy]

Anyone looks at the slick from the new amt Surf Woody? http://www.collectormodel.com/round2-models/2508-amt-mpc-cars-trucks-the-devil-is-in-the-details/#comments

Scale 7 inch tread width, four per kit.               

Edited December 20, 2016 by Ace-Garageguy

[Mike Chernecki]

Scale 7 inch tread width, four per kit.               

What years would this style be in use?

[Ace-Garageguy]

What years would this style be in use?

Though the SS classes began in '57-'58, the cheater slicks were not allowed until 1960, with a minimum 1/16" "tread". 

Somebody else will have to chime in on the widths.

 

[Againmikewins]

The Comp Resin pie crust "cheater" slicks measure 8" in 1/25 scale.  I have a pair of them, and I just did the calculation. 

Is that the tire that was posted in the first comment on this thread?

[6bblbird]

Though the SS classes began in '57-'58, the cheater slicks were not allowed until 1960, with a minimum 1/16" "tread". 

Somebody else will have to chime in on the widths.

 

The first mention of "cheater slicks" applying to stock class cars appeared in the 1961 NHRA rule book. They were allowed but could not exceed the width of a tire " one size larger than the originally equipped tire".

In '62 your allowed tire width was dependent on the o.e.m. wheel width with no tire to exceed 7".

It was 1966 when NHRA removed all references to o.e.m. tire widths and tread type  and allowed 7" "cheater slicks" across the board.

WF

P.S. The NHRA rule books are listed in this section

Edited January 31, 2017 by 6bblbird

[doggie427]

IIRC the Polar Lights '64 GTO and '65 Dodge Coronets had cheater slicks.