1937 Ford Woodie - aka Carbon14

[gtx6970]

Looking for some ideas / sources for the pieces to replicate this car.

I use to work for the shop that built this and Ive seen it since the beginning . Thinking it would be REALLY cool in 1/25th scale.

 

So I'm looking for ideas / sources for the basics , A woody body . or at least the kits to cut up and make it if need be . Wheels and tires any ideas?

Edited December 22, 2016 by gtx6970

[Ace-Garageguy]

This one?        

Obviously the old Monogram '37 Ford kit (though it's labeled 1/24, nobody would really notice) and a scratch-built body from the cowl back.

                

The woody body is very simple and all straight panels, so building it should be pretty easy really.

I'm also pretty sure Aoshima has wheels very close to those as well.   

I honestly think scratching the rear of the body would be significantly easier than cut-and-paste on an existing woody section, and would give you a cleaner end product.

 

Edited December 22, 2016 by Ace-Garageguy

[espo]

One consideration for the body may be the AMT '41 Ford Woody for the basic body. The differences would be in the shape of the A pillar and the shape of the rear fender/body area. The suggested '37 Ford would give you the front end you need and offer an updated chassis. Scale Motor Sport offers upholstery patterns and Carbon Fiber decals to use on the body. This would be a great build.   

[Ace-Garageguy]

One consideration for the body may be the AMT '41 Ford Woody for the basic body. 

That's probably a pretty good idea for another reason too. The '41 is a somewhat larger car than the '37-'40 bodies, so using the '41 to do a '40 woody in 1/25 can be frustrating.

BUT...since the Monogram '37 body is 1/24 (slightly larger than 1/25 of course), that 1/25 '41 woody body just might get you pretty close...hmmmmm.   

[gtx6970]

Thanks 

 

My only concern would be the area of the 41  body where the  downward slope of the rear fender would need modified. 

 

Im not afraid of some scratch building...but a whole hand built rear body is beyond my desires. Im afraid if it becomes to much work. Ill never finish it.  

 

Ive known this car since it was just a basic body and chassis. But when i saw the original design concept drawing....i knew it was going to be something cool. And im not typically a street rod kind of builder.

 

[Ken Kitchen]

I have my doubts about the 41 Woody. The shape along the top edge is more rounded that on the 37. I've been considering a similar conversion myself. I think the Monogram 30 Model A woody might be a better place to start. Also there is a 37 Cabriolet available which should make the job easier too.

[Ace-Garageguy]

I have my doubts about the 41 Woody. The shape along the top edge is more rounded that on the 37. I've been considering a similar conversion myself. I think the Monogram 30 Model A woody might be a better place to start. Also there is a 37 Cabriolet available which should make the job easier too.

I still think scratching most of it is the way to go.

The Model A is overall a much smaller car than the '38 Ford, and though I have NOT measured the models , in real life you'd be way off.

There's only one compound-curved part that needs to be addressed, and that's the section of roof over the front seats. I don't believe any of the woody kits available are going to come close, but the corresponding section of the '37 roof could easily be flattened somewhat, and blended into a flatter rear section, perhaps from a woody kit, perhaps scratched. I'd still vote for scratched. A fabric or textured finish could help to hide less-than-stellar bodywork.

Scratching the doors, quarters and rear gate is about as easy as scratch-building gets, except possibly for making the curved elements...which only require care and precision to lay out and assemble. No rocket science or magic.

Interesting that this came up when it did. I noticed a couple of '37 / '38 stockers in some old films recently,, and my mind has been working on how to do one most easily.

I think I may have to add a stock one to my list of projects. The faded-paint and wood techniques I've seen here on the forum would give me exactly the kind of evocative look I'd be after.

[gtx6970]

Thanks all. This is a project that's been in the back of my mind since I first saw the 1/1  on the frame table at C Cook Enterprises in Erlanger  Ky

Now that I've seen it completed, Its getting stronger and stronger to replicate ( at least to 'some' degree )

 

Spent a little time this am looking at kits and wheels

[CometMan]

It would take alot of splicing, but the Dan Fink '32 Speedwagon may be a good place to start.

[stitchdup]

Just an option but I have the amt woody mentioned already and the revell 48 woody and the revell seems to have a slightly wider front window area (just going from memory since I have neither easy to get to just now) which may fit the 37 better. For the roof a simple pie cut along the front line of the door post/b pillar may save some work and if it was continued into/close the flat of the roof may save some work. After all that scratching up the lower rear panel to suit the 37 fender might be a walk in the park

[1930fordpickup]

37 Ford Monogram Bill picture is 2.00 wide at the base of the Windshield / top of the hood area.Would this be the widest point of the Cowl? Anyway measuring same point on bodies.  

1941 Ford AMT kit is wider . 2.300 wide . That being noted the roof would have to be redone as it has a larger radius on the outside edge than the Car pictured. You could use the sides as a starting point.

1948 Revell Woody is 2.220 wide. Wood is farther off than the 41 Amt. 

1929/30/31 kits the wood pattern is to far off. 

I hope this helps Bill. 

[BigTallDad]

There's another way to address the Woody aspect...

http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/topic/101995-woodification-making-it-a-woodie/#comment-1425640

 

[Ace-Garageguy]

There's another way to address the Woody aspect...

http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/topic/101995-woodification-making-it-a-woodie/#comment-1425640

Glad you posted that. It's a great tutorial for ideas and techniques for doing wood. I recall seeing it before now, and meaning to flag it. Thanks again. Good stuff.

[Psychographic]

 Looking at the pic of the car you want to replicate, and then looking at what I know is available as far as woodies, I would scratch build the back of the car. I think the work involved to modify an existing kit would be more than just building it from scratch.

[espo]

Might it not be easier to widen the '37 hood to meet the fire wall ? You might have to alter the hood side panels, but it just seems that all might be an easier way to get the two different bodies the meet.