6-cyl for '65 Econoline - AMT or Jo-Han?

[ChrisBcritter]

As I've mentioned a few times, I'm building the Jimmy Flintstone Econoline. I'm doing it as a '65 with a 170 6-cylinder; from what I gather the only kit-sourced 170/200s are either the display engines offered in the '62 Styline Falcon and Comet, or the one from the Jo-Han Maverick. Which is more correct for the van, at least from underneath? I know it should have a center-sump oil pan:

And I'll also have to scrounge that small 3-speed (?) transmission someplace. Any advice would be appreciated!

[Art Anderson]

Both Norm Veber (Replicas & MIniatures of Maryland) and Ken Kitchen (Kitchen Table Resins) make the Falcon inline 6 cylinder engine in resin.

Art

[ChrisBcritter]

Thanks Art! I found some photos of the Kitchen Table kit; looks good - anyone have a photo of the R&M engine built or unbuilt?

[Tom Geiger]

Chris, how much of this engine will actually be visible?  That can determine how much effort you put into it

I went to some trouble to get a slant six into my Flintstone A100 van and all you can see it the chassis view. So as long as the bottom of engine and transmission look good, it's fine.  I also have the stock V8 in a 1970s Dodge van and didn't even include the top end of the engine!

 

  Yes, the A100 kit has opening doors and a removable engine cover, but once you add the resin van body with fixed doors, you pretty much have to glue the engine cover in place.

 

 

[ChrisBcritter]

Pretty much what you see in the photos - my main concern is the size and how it looks from underneath, and if it's a correct engine for a '62-'65 version (it's referred to as a '65 in the movie). I'm just happy the rear is closed off from view - I really didn't want to scratchbuild that chandelier

[curt raitz]

I have Norm's (Replicas&Miniatures) Ford Inline 6 cylinder.

I will take photos of them and post them here for you.

I'm building a replica of the '64 Ford Econoline I owned.

 

[curt raitz]

Here is the Replicas & Miniatures Ford inline 6 cylinder engine:

[ChrisBcritter]

Thanks so much Curt - just what I needed to see. Looking forward to watching how yours turns out!

[Art Anderson]

Norm Veber's resin engine is a reproduction of the display engine that was included with the 1961 Falcon kit from AMT that year.  it's actually still quite well done.

Art

[my80malibu]

Have you considered the 6cyl from the 69 Ford F 100 from Moebius.

[Mark IV]

Have you considered the 6cyl from the 69 Ford F 100 from Moebius.

That is a 240/300 series six, a totally different animal from the 144/170/200 series

[ChrisBcritter]

Norm Veber's resin engine is a reproduction of the display engine that was included with the 1961 Falcon kit from AMT that year.  it's actually still quite well done.

Art

It is? I thought it was the Jo-Han engine; the instructions match the illustration from the Maverick kit, plus it looks a little more crisply molded.

Here's the Kitchen Table kit, built:

Looks like the photos of the '62 I've seen.

Either way, which one of these has a correct early manual transmission? Thanks for all the help!

Edit: After Googling Econoline transmissions (duh!), I think the above one would be closer after correcting/shortening the tailshaft.

Edited June 28, 2017 by ChrisBcritter

[Rodent]

Both engines look like they have the very light duty "paper" 3 speed that was used in Falcons and Mustangs with the 6 cylinder. First gear isn't synchronized. It looks like they used it in 170 powered Econolines as well. Heavier duty versions used the full synchro V8 3-speed which has a top cover. I think that the paper 3 speed was discontinued after 66, at least in passenger cars.