1969 Camaro SS396 still on MSO

[Foghorn Leghorn]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/403069615810

Too bad he drove it on the street. 17,000 miles in 18 mos in New York state means it's been in the salt. When someone grinds those bubbles off the bottoms of the rear quarter panels there's gonna be holes there.

In the first video you can hear the solid lifters when the engine settles down. That's pretty cool.

 

 

[espo]

I was unable to pull up the car you're talking about but I agree with you about the bubbles that appear on a car after extended contact with road salts. This car still being on it's MSO opens a lot of questions that who ever wants to buy this car needs to think about. Every state will have different ways of registering and titling such a car but you have to wonder about the original owner. Did they pay sales tax ? operate an unlicensed vehicle ? Does the state want back property taxes ? and would this be what is sometimes called "Jumping Title" since the owner has never titled the vehicle and is now passing that to the buyer ? Some where and some how the state is going to get the back fees that were never paid. 

[Foghorn Leghorn]

1 hour ago, espo said:

I was unable to pull up the car

I just checked. Twice. The link is good.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/403069615810

Edited August 19, 2021 by Foghorn Leghorn

[Mark]

The car may have been owned by a dealer, or a collector who had a set of dealer/transport plates.  I knew a guy who worked for a dealer, he'd borrow the dealer plates to drive his drag car to the strip instead of trailering it.  The liability insurance on dealer plates is high because they can be used to transport cars that don't necessarily pass inspection, and haven't been inspected yet.  

Or the car just hasn't been on the road.  In New York, you pay sales tax on the car when you register it.  No registration, no sales tax.

[espo]

4 hours ago, Foghorn Leghorn said:

I just checked. Twice. The link is good.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/403069615810

Thanks I was now able to pull up the site with this post. Very interesting story and an interesting car if only it was in my budget, which it isn't. The points I brought up about the registering of the vehicle are based on my being employed in the retail car business for over thirty years before retiring. Most of that time was in the state of California and only the last few in Kansas before retiring. The only problem that I can see with the transfer of ownership might have been when the first owner, son of and employee of a dealership, sold the car to the second owner. Should the second owner of the Camaro had also been a licensed dealer he would still be in the clear since he was a dealer. Unless a licensed dealer now buys the Camaro they are going to pay the taxes on the selling price and the state where it becomes registered may base the license fees on either their stated value for a '69 Camaro, he better hope, or on the value based on what the person payed for the car, he better hope not. That part can be very different from one state to the next. Since the car was only driven the 17000 miles and I'm thinking only under the best of road conditions I don't think any rust on the under carriage would be a problem and he did mention that he had undercoated the car when new. 

[Oldcarfan27]

No need to worry about the registration - that car will probably never make it back on the street. It's a trailer/museum piece from now on.

[1930fordpickup]

 If you don't have the car in your name on a title Can you insure it? How does the interior look that bad from a car that sat inside? Resprayed here and there , so how many miles are really on this old 1/4 mile warrior? If the guy never put it in his name to avoid taxes and other costs how can you believe anything he says? 

[slusher]

On 8/20/2021 at 3:05 AM, 1930fordpickup said:

 If you don't have the car in your name on a title Can you insure it? How does the interior look that bad from a car that sat inside? Resprayed here and there , so how many miles are really on this old 1/4 mile warrior? If the guy never put it in his name to avoid taxes and other costs how can you believe anything he says? 

I agree with Andy. It’s not worth what it’s going for. The buyer has no idea how much it’s been raced..

[1930fordpickup]

I went back and reread the listing. He (the original owner) did purchase the car from his fathers dealership with more miles than he was allowed to drive it.  His words , "I got to order a 10,000 demo " so after his dad called for him to return the car they made a deal of 3,300 for the car already having 17,000 miles on it. 

[Draggon]

On 8/20/2021 at 1:05 AM, 1930fordpickup said:

 If you don't have the car in your name on a title Can you insure it?

Yes, in California at least. I'm working on doing that this week. My son has been gifted a car, but has no license. I can insure it listing me as the driver.