Need Help To I.D. Wheels and Tires

[TooOld]

Can anybody tell me which kit these wheels and tires come in ? 

I know there are similar ones in a few kits but these are exactly what I've been looking for .  Pretty sure they are from AMT .

[Mark]

 Not sure about those front tires, rears look like the BFG Silvertowns from the Monogram '59 Cadillacs.  AMT '57 Chrysler has them also, but the whitewall may be bigger on those.  The ones pictured might be aftermarket, maybe Modelhaus?  

Wheels look like the Cragars from the AMT '37 Chevy.  The '65 El Camino, Chevelle wagon, and Ford Galaxie have similar Cragar S/S wheels, most have no mounting provisions on the back side.

[espo]

The White Wall tires look as if you have tires from three different sources. Revell has offered tires in a few kits, '56 Chevy comes to mind, where the white Wall is a separate plastic part that you would insert in the Rubber Tire. As Mark mentioned the wheels are Cragers and have a nice offset and one very good source would be the AMT '65 El Camino and there are others as well. 

[Don Sikora II]

I don't think those BF Goodrich tires are from the Monogram '59 Cadillac, or any other Revell-Monogram kit. 

Wild guess....could they be from one of the Arii '57-'58 Cadillac kits or the Chinese copies of those kits?

[Mark]

I don't have one of those '58 Biarritz kits anymore, but I remember the tires as being branded "Douglas" or something like that.  Those Silvertowns do resemble the Monogram Cadillac tire, except for the whitewall insert which looks small.  The front tires don't look like anything from any kit I can recall.  I still think they might be something Modelhaus did, or the current Modelhaus Tire operation is doing now.

[TooOld]

20 hours ago, Mark said:

 Not sure about those front tires, rears look like the BFG Silvertowns from the Monogram '59 Cadillacs.  AMT '57 Chrysler has them also, but the whitewall may be bigger on those.  The ones pictured might be aftermarket, maybe Modelhaus?  

Wheels look like the Cragars from the AMT '37 Chevy.  The '65 El Camino, Chevelle wagon, and Ford Galaxie have similar Cragar S/S wheels, most have no mounting provisions on the back side.

 

18 hours ago, espo said:

The White Wall tires look as if you have tires from three different sources. Revell has offered tires in a few kits, '56 Chevy comes to mind, where the white Wall is a separate plastic part that you would insert in the Rubber Tire. As Mark mentioned the wheels are Cragers and have a nice offset and one very good source would be the AMT '65 El Camino and there are others as well. 

Thanks for the suggestions !  I have the kits mentioned so I did some checking . . . the Monogram '59 Caddy tires aren't even close . The AMT '57 Chrysler look identical except the tire lettering isn't as crisp , maybe they were also in a newer kit ?  I don't think they are Modelhaus as I got them on Ebay really cheap . All four whitewall inserts are identical so I'm thinking they all came in the same kit , guess that's not necessarily true . The fronts I can't find anywhere .

As for the Cragars . . . The El Camino and Chevelle Wagon have really nice ones but they have a deeper offset than these , not concerned about the mounting posts . I also checked several other AMT kits that have Cragars and either they don't have the S/S caps or they have different offsets . A couple like the Baldwin Motion Camaro has a really nice set but the spokes are more rounded without the flat tops , I've seen real Cragars both ways so it seems both are correct .

I'm not to concerned about finding the Cragars but I really want another set of the tires so I'll keep looking . Thanks guys !

[Mark]

A shot of the back side of those Cragars would narrow it down.  I will say they are definitely AMT.  MPC Cragars often had blank center caps, sometimes only lettering (misspelled on occasion), never the S/S logo that I can recall.

[Bucky]

Could those skinny tires at the bottom of your photo possibly be from a Johan early classic kit, such as a 1931 Cadillac?

[deuces wild]

The tires look like they're from the Revell 3in1 model a pickup kit.. I could be wrong..?

[TooOld]

On 12/9/2021 at 10:38 AM, deuces wild said:

The tires look like they're from the Revell 3in1 model a pickup kit.. I could be wrong..?

Found a review on Youtube and they're similar but have no markings and no ribs on the fronts , also the inserts are completely different . Thanks for the suggestion .

[TooOld]

Here's some better photos of the tires . I did look at Modelhaus Tires and the fronts are similar to their #100 tire but again the ribs are different .

Forget about the Cragars , I'm not concerned about them right now . 

[Mark]

I'll stick to Modelhaus (maybe something no longer made).  The whitewall inserts look like castings, and the uniformity between the fronts and rears would lead me to believe all are from one source.

The Revell Rat Rod tires look more like radials to me (these square-shouldered tires are bias-ply), and I recall the Revell inserts being deeper, and "stepped" around the center hole.

[TooOld]

2 hours ago, Mark said:

I'll stick to Modelhaus (maybe something no longer made).  The whitewall inserts look like castings, and the uniformity between the fronts and rears would lead me to believe all are from one source.

The Revell Rat Rod tires look more like radials to me (these square-shouldered tires are bias-ply), and I recall the Revell inserts being deeper, and "stepped" around the center hole.

I was starting to think the same thing , the inserts have no ejection marks and the tire material seems identical for all four of them . Guess I was lucky to get this set .  Thanks Mark !