Johan 62 Plymouth?

[junkyardjeff]

A friend dropped off some models today and this 62 was in with everything but that is all that is there so I presume Johan could have made it,would like to save it but too many missing parts.  The 64 Mercury is going to come apart for repaint and add some wheels,I think it's a original 64 kit.

[SfanGoch]

That's a Revell H1252 1962 Dodge Dart 440 Four Door HT. Revell H1251 Plymouth Fury is a 2 Door HT. If you can find, or have, a junk Johan C-4162 '62 Dart HT or C-4862 '62 Dodge Dart Convertible, you can scavenge all of the parts to rebuild your body. The Johan glass and interior fit perfectly. If you have a Lindberg '64 Plymouth or Dodge, you can use the engine, chassis and suspension, which are more detailed than the Johan parts.

Edit:

My mistake. This is the Revell '62 Fury.

Edited April 16, 2023 by SfanGoch

[mr moto]

That's definitely a Johan 62 Fury 2 door hardtop with a B pillar made from scrap added on so it would look more like the Savoy that Richard Petty ran in Nascar.

[mr moto]

Despite sounding so sure of myself, that just might be a Revell! I looked at a Johan that's in my stash and there are some differences. It depends on what mods the OB might have made. In any case, it's a Plymouth and started life as a 2 door hardtop. That's my final WAG until I look at it again!

[Don Sikora II]

1 hour ago, mr moto said:

Despite sounding so sure of myself, that just might be a Revell! I looked at a Johan that's in my stash and there are some differences. It depends on what mods the OB might have made. In any case, it's a Plymouth and started life as a 2 door hardtop. That's my final WAG until I look at it again!

I'm nearly certain it's a Revell ’62 Fury, that like you said started as a two-door hardtop.

[Tabbysdaddy]

I only see two doors on it.

[SfanGoch]

It's definitely a Revell. The odd points on the front and rear center edges of the roof are found only on the Revell Fury and Dart.

 

[junkyardjeff]

Did not know Revell made it,when it comes to 60s Mopars Johan is the first to come to my mind.

[SfanGoch]

Revell produced two series of six 1962  Mopar kits, one (H-1250-H-1255) molded in colored styrene and the other (H-1260-H-1265) in Metalflake:

H-1250/1260 - Valiant V-200 4 Door HT

 

H-1251/1261 - Plymouth Fury 2 Door HT

 

H-1252/1262 - Dodge Dart 440 # Door HT

 

H-1253/1263 - Dodge Lancer GT

 

H-1254/1264 - Chrysler Newport Convertible

 

H-1255/1265 - Imperial Crown

 

I've been lucky and snagged four:

Plymouth Fury (Metalflake), Dodge Dart (Metalflake), Lancer GT (white styrene) and Imperial Crown (burgundy red styrene). 

 

 

Edited April 18, 2023 by SfanGoch

[StevenGuthmiller]

14 hours ago, SfanGoch said:

Revell produced two series of six 1962  Mopar kits, one (H-1250-H-1255) molded in colored styrene and the other (H-1260-H-1265) in Metalflake:

H-1250/1260 - Valiant V-200 4 Door HT

 

H-1251/1261 - Plymouth Fury 2 Door HT

 

H-1252/1262 - Dodge Dart 440 # Door HT

 

H-1253/1263 - Dodge Lancer GT

 

H-1254/1264 - Chrysler Newport Convertible

 

H-1255/1265 - Imperial Crown

 

I've been lucky and snagged four:

Plymouth Fury (Metalflake), Dodge Dart (Metalflake), Lancer GT (white styrene) and Imperial Crown (burgundy red styrene). 

 

 

I have one of the Lancers in metal flake.

 

 

Steve

[SfanGoch]

The Metalflake kits command some major triple digit bucks. Every once in a while, you can run across one on fleabay for a really good price ($50-$80 range) because the sellers doesn't realize their relative rarity.

The scarcest kits are the Newport and Imperial Crown. The majority available are really trashed out junkers, missing all of the important parts like hoods, engines, glass and most of the chrome, in the $100+ range. I was super lucky to have snagged the mint Imperial Crown for 79 bucks after I mentioned to the seller that he engine block halves were missing. When I received it, I found the parts inside the folded instruction sheet.

[Mopar maniac 74]

Wow

Wonder if the revell molds exist anywhere so round 2 could get their hands on them.

That body on a scavenged chassis with a blower or tunnel ram engine would make a nice pro street and you wouldn't need a hood.

[SfanGoch]

Dollars to donuts, Peter Vetri, owner of Atlantis, has the toolings, minus the tires. Most likely, they were among the items obtained from the Revell U.S. warehouses during the liquidation sale. I wouldn't be surprised if he's working on new tooling for the tires and possibly the glass.

[Carmak]

Some interesting observations of the 1962 Revell annuals:

* The first issues molded in solid colors came in JoHan style flat boxes, and the second issues molded in metalflake clear came in boxes that are similar in size to the standard box size adopted in the mid 60's.

* The first issues molded had the model year and model specific box art with pictures of actual cars or high quality renderings, and the second issues all shared a generic box with no actual pictures of the car. I suspect this is because the 1962 Mopars were not generally considered attractive.

* Two of my un-built kits have the parts sealed in bags. I bought both of these kits 30+ years ago at local garage sales so although possible it would be surprising if someone other than the factory sealed these kits.

Carmak

 

[Mopar maniac 74]

Joe,

Hate to hear Atlantis maybe has them.  They only seem to be interested in brand X on the car side but I sent them an e mail anyway.  Guess there is always hope.

[SfanGoch]

 Atlantis won't divulge what toolings they obtained. Nobody, except Atlantis, bought the toolings from the Revell liquidation sale. They have most, if not all, of the U.S.-stored Aurora/Revell/Monogram car toolings which in all probability include the '62 Mopars. The only one which would require reverse engineering is the Dodge Dart. The body was hacked up to create the Dodge Revellion funny car.

[junkyardjeff]

I found a extra Lindberg 64 Dodge chassis so I might save it.

[SfanGoch]

On 4/21/2023 at 12:39 PM, Carmak said:

The first issues molded had the model year and model specific box art with pictures of actual cars or high quality renderings, and the second issues all shared a generic box with no actual pictures of the car. I suspect this is because the 1962 Mopars were not generally considered attractive.

AMT/SMP also packaged their kits in generic boxes. Only the box end stickers give away the contents.

This is the art for the SMP 1960 Impala Hardtop box; although you wouldn't know it by just looking at it. Like the previous images, the only way to find out what kit it is inside is to look at the label on the box ends.

Wendy's must have copped the concept for this commercial:

 

Edited April 22, 2023 by SfanGoch

[Mopar maniac 74]

Well the good news is peter did reply to me (thank you Peter). and he does have the molds.  Unfortunately he doesn't have licensing from chrysler corp so I don't think we will be seeing them any time soon.