International 4300 tractor

[Gary Chastain]

3 hours ago, gotnitro? said:

Oh man your breaking out the serious toys now lol, all the gauges and calipers its starting to remind me of my bench at work

Which wheel set are you using on your trailer 

I had enough left over Modeus rims and tires, had to add a bushing to the inside wheel to fit the axle. 
 

PS…old toolmakers never stop using their tools ???

[gotnitro?]

Good use for mobius wheels! 

 

[cifenet]

Cool tool!

Of course, this is a science project needing accurate measurements!   

I actually had do a similar task confirming height on each aide, but all I had was a big level trying to balance it on top of the truck…

[Gary Chastain]

Got started building a new trailer, partially from scratch. Using the main frame rails, dollys and suspension from the kit. Got to cut 19 cross members next  

[Gary Chastain]

All the cross members cut and installed 

[Rockford]

Nice work! 

[Edward Gore]

Yes, nice work. I need to get some of those square blocks for building as well.

 

 

[Gary Chastain]

8 minutes ago, Edward Gore said:

Yes, nice work. I need to get some of those square blocks for building as well.

 

 

Pretty cheap on eBay, I have four of them but many times wish I had two more. 

[Dys]

Please educate me and help me understand. What are the various uses for machinist blocks? Especially as it applies to modeling? I'm stretching my skill set and venturing into building some big rigs. I have the the International 4300 and Ford LTL 9000 on my build list. Are you using these to square the frame?

[Gary Chastain]

I use them mostly for scratch building, holding things square, fixturing and use them to sit the frame on as I am building the truck. No they are not necessary, they are just a nice additional tool. A more important tool is my calipers, for instance I build a 4 bag air suspension and the molding process had some air bags at different heights, which when done you could possibly have a set of wheels that will not touch the table as the other wheels do ( one set hanging in the air). 

5 hours ago, Dys said:

Please educate me and help me understand. What are the various uses for machinist blocks? Especially as it applies to modeling? I'm stretching my skill set and venturing into building some big rigs. I have the the International 4300 and Ford LTL 9000 on my build list. Are you using these to square the frame?

 

[cifenet]

That looks extremely accurate!  Awesome job at detailing this. 

[Gary Chastain]

Getting a little bench time today. More fabrication completed, making brake backing plates from some Auslowe parts ( kit comes with no backing plates). I know you can’t see them when completed but I know they are missing. 

[DRIPTROIT 71]

Very nice work!!

[Dutzie]

Looks awesome!

[Gary Chastain]

4 hours ago, DRIPTROIT 71 said:

Very nice work!!

 

42 minutes ago, Dutzie said:

Looks awesome!

Thanks for lookin guys, hope I can get some more bench time this week. 

[Jürgen M.]

Nice work! Love the details!

I can understand you making the the backing plates. Even If you can't really see them later you know there's something missing! 

I made them too for all my printed kits!

[Force]

Far from all US tractors and trailers have backing plates because you really don't need them as all brake parts are attached to the axles themselves, and it's easier to see wear as you can see the brake shoes from the inside.

Here is Paul Cox's 1979 K100 Aerodyne under restoration, no backing plates.

 

even on more modern trucks, 2000 Peterbilt 379.

[Gary Chastain]

2 hours ago, Force said:

Far from all US tractors and trailers have backing plates because you really don't need them as all brake parts are attached to the axles themselves, and it's easier to see wear as you can see the brake shoes from the inside.

Here is Paul Cox's 1979 K100 Aerodyne under restoration, no backing plates.

 

even on more modern trucks, 2000 Peterbilt 379.

Yes sir, that is true. I only have one set of four brake shoes and parts to use on a build and I did not want a big hole where the wheels mount, so backing plates it is, saving my other setup. 

[Force]

12 hours ago, Gary Chastain said:

Yes sir, that is true. I only have one set of four brake shoes and parts to use on a build and I did not want a big hole where the wheels mount, so backing plates it is, saving my other setup. 

Yes of course, lack of detail is probably why the kit manufacturers also supplies backing plates.
I think I saw somewhere detailed brakes without backing plates, I don't remember where tho'.

[Rockford]

Trailer looks great!

I've noticed that American trucks rarely have backplates on the brakes. It was an MOT failure for us in GB. They don't really do much other than keep stones of a certain size out and brake dust in. I suppose cooling is a bit better without. They were all specific to manufacturers too, Rubery Owen Rockwell were different to York were different to Fruehauf etc... 

I WAS NEARLY ALIVE AGAIN THEN! 

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[Gary Chastain]

4 hours ago, Rockford said:

Trailer looks great!

I've noticed that American trucks rarely have backplates on the brakes. It was an MOT failure for us in GB. They don't really do much other than keep stones of a certain size out and brake dust in. I suppose cooling is a bit better without. They were all specific to manufacturers too, Rubery Owen Rockwell were different to York were different to Fruehauf etc... 

I WAS NEARLY ALIVE AGAIN THEN! 

Talked to my neighbor who owns a logging truck. His comments about backing plates was interesting. His new truck does have backing plates. He said that most logging trucks run backing plates on the brakes due to the mud, sand and debris they drive thru. It just prevents the brakes from getting clogged up and stop working. He commented that in some cases, a blade on a logging tractor is used to push them out. 

[Gary Chastain]

With a lot of fidgeting I got all the brakes mounted, made up mud flaps, adjusted frame so the suspension will slide correctly. Kit comes with no tail lights or marker lights, found some CTM stuff that will work. Next mount tool boxes, final sanding and off to paint. Think I will build two large crates for the load and use yellow straps. 

[gotnitro?]

Your trailer progress looks great! Always nice when you finish fitting the suspension and wheels...and they all touch! I've been nailed during IPMS shows for floaters more than once, it's never their wobbly tables lol

[Gary Chastain]

Making progress, paint on trailer and suspension, wood floor installed. 

[Gary Chastain]

Needed some type of load on the trailer, built a shipping container and I do have ratchet straps to secure the load.